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Non-stabilizerness and U(1) symmetry in chaotic many-body quantum systems
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A conserved U(1) charge substantially suppresses non-stabilizerness in Haar random quantum states.
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Core claim
We present exact, closed-form results for the non-stabilizerness of random pure states subject to a U(1) symmetry constraint. Using stabilizer entropy as our non-stabilizerness monotone, we derive the average and the variance for U(1)-constrained Haar random states. We show that the presence of a conserved charge leads to a substantial suppression of non-stabilizerness (magic) compared to the unconstrained case, and identify a qualitative difference between entanglement and magic response. In the thermodynamic limit, stabilizer entropy exhibits a different leading-order scaling close to a vanishing relative charge density, implying that magic is more robust to charge density fluctuations.
What carries the argument
The U(1)-constrained Haar ensemble, which restricts random pure states to a fixed total charge sector and yields closed-form expressions for the moments of stabilizer entropy.
Load-bearing premise
The quantum states are distributed exactly according to the Haar measure restricted to one U(1) symmetry sector.
What would settle it
A direct numerical computation of the average stabilizer entropy in the midspectrum of the complex SYK model that deviates from the derived closed-form expression at large system size.
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We present exact, closed-form results for the non-stabilizerness of random pure states subject to a U(1) symmetry constraint. Using stabilizer entropy as our non-stabilizerness monotone, we derive the average and the variance for U(1)-constrained Haar random states. We show that the presence of a conserved charge leads to a substantial suppression of non-stabilizerness (magic) compared to the unconstrained case, and identify a qualitative difference between entanglement and magic response. In the thermodynamic limit, stabilizer entropy exhibits a different leading-order scaling close to a vanishing relative charge density, implying that magic is more robust to charge density fluctuations than entanglement entropy. We test our analytical predictions against midspectrum eigenstates of two chaotic many-body systems with conserved U(1) charge: the complex-fermion Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev (cSYK) model and a Heisenberg XXZ chain with next-to-nearest-neighbour couplings and conserved magnetization. We find an excellent agreement for the non-local cSYK model and systematic deviations for the local XXZ chain, highlighting the role of interaction locality.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper derives exact closed-form expressions for the average and variance of stabilizer entropy (a non-stabilizerness monotone) over the U(1)-constrained Haar ensemble on fixed-charge subspaces. It shows that conserved charge substantially suppresses magic relative to the unconstrained case, with a distinct leading-order thermodynamic scaling near vanishing relative charge density that differs from entanglement entropy. Numerical comparisons are presented for midspectrum eigenstates of the non-local cSYK model (excellent agreement) and a local XXZ chain (systematic deviations attributed to interaction locality).
Significance. If the closed-form results hold, the work supplies a precise, parameter-free characterization of symmetry-induced suppression of magic in chaotic many-body systems. The exact derivation for the constrained Haar measure, the identification of qualitatively different scaling for magic versus entanglement, and the clean match to non-local chaotic models constitute a substantive advance in understanding non-stabilizerness under conservation laws.
minor comments (2)
- [§3] §3 (or equivalent derivation section): the explicit integration steps over the constrained manifold should be expanded with one intermediate identity to make the passage from the Haar measure to the final variance formula fully self-contained for readers.
- [Figure 2] Figure 2 caption: the error bars on the XXZ data points are not described; adding a brief statement on their origin (e.g., disorder averaging or finite-size effects) would improve clarity.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive and accurate summary of our manuscript, as well as their recommendation to accept. We are pleased that the exact results on U(1)-constrained non-stabilizerness, the distinct scaling behavior relative to entanglement, and the numerical comparisons were viewed as a substantive advance.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; derivation is self-contained
full rationale
The paper presents exact closed-form derivations of the average and variance of stabilizer entropy for U(1)-constrained Haar random states, obtained by direct integration over the symmetry sector using standard properties of the restricted Haar measure. No load-bearing steps reduce to self-definitions, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, or self-citation chains; the central results for suppression of magic and distinct scaling near zero charge density follow independently from the ensemble definition without circular reduction. Numerical comparisons to cSYK and XXZ models serve as external validation rather than internal justification.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math Haar measure on the U(1)-constrained subspace of the Hilbert space
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