arxiv: 2604.01908 · v2 · submitted 2026-04-02 · ❄️ cond-mat.mtrl-sci · cond-mat.other· cond-mat.stat-mech· cond-mat.str-el

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Phonon Thermal Hall Effect in quartz and its absence in silica

Beno\^it Fauqu\'e, Kamran Behnia, Yu Ling

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keywords phonon thermal Hall effectquartzsilicathermal transportmagnetic fieldphonon gasthermal Hall conductivityBerry force

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A phonon thermal Hall effect appears in crystalline quartz but is absent in amorphous silica because phonons conduct heat through two channels that differ in entropy production and magnetic coupling.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper compares longitudinal and transverse heat transport in quartz crystals and silica glass using the same setup to determine the origin of the phonon thermal Hall effect. It reports a finite transverse signal in the crystals, larger in the cleaner sample, but none detectable in the amorphous sample. The authors argue that phonons, like molecules in the Senftleben-Beenakker effect, carry heat via two channels whose differences in entropy production and magnetic-field response make the conserved energy current and non-conserved entropy current non-parallel. They show that the size of the transverse thermal resistivity matches a picture in which heat flux causes a small nuclear drift, the field applies a transverse Berry force to that drift, and an entropic force balances it.

Core claim

In a phonon gas, heat conduction occurs through two channels. Whenever these channels differ both in entropy production and in their coupling to the magnetic field, the conserved energy current and the non-conserved entropy current cease to be parallel, producing a thermal Hall response. This response is observed in crystalline quartz but remains undetectable in vitreous silica within experimental resolution, and its magnitude in the crystals is accounted for by the drift-velocity picture in which the magnetic field exerts a Berry force on nuclei that is balanced by an entropic restoring force.

What carries the argument

Two-channel phonon conduction in which the channels differ in entropy production and magnetic-field coupling, rendering the energy current and entropy current non-parallel.

If this is right

The thermal Hall conductivity is larger in cleaner crystals than in dirtier ones.
The transverse thermal resistivity remains nearly identical across different crystalline quartz samples.
Disorder is ruled out as the driver of the effect.
The effect follows directly from the misalignment between energy and entropy currents once the two channels differ in both entropy production and magnetic response.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same two-channel argument may apply to other crystalline insulators where phonons dominate heat transport.
Absence of the effect in glasses suggests that long-range order is needed to sustain the required channel distinction.
The nuclear-drift and Berry-force balance offers a parameter-light way to estimate the size of the response in other materials.

Load-bearing premise

Heat conduction in the phonon gas occurs through two channels that differ both in entropy production and in their coupling to the magnetic field.

What would settle it

Detection of a thermal Hall signal in high-purity amorphous silica at the same magnitude and resolution as in quartz would falsify the requirement for distinct channels that exist only in the crystalline state.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.01908 by Beno\^it Fauqu\'e, Kamran Behnia, Yu Ling.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Comparison of longitudinal thermal conductivity and atomic structure of quartz and silica (a) Measured κx x for the two quartz samples is shown by red circles (Quartz#1) and pink triangles (Quartz#2). Blue squares represent the measured thermal conductivity of the silica sample. Gray solid lines represent the κx x values reported in [1] for quartz and silica (b) Side view (from a-axis) of the periodic lat… view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Comparison of raw data in quartz and in silica. (a) Sketch of the experimental set-up with the sample sandwiched between a heater and a cold finger supporting three Cernox thermometers. (b) A photograph of a sample with thermometers. (c-e) Raw data for quartz#1 (c), quartz#2 (d) and silica (e) at 15 K. R1 and R3 are the resistance of two Cernox thermometers labeled 1 and 3 and monitoring the transverse … view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: The transverse temperature difference and the thermal Hall conductivity. (a-d)∆Ty extracted from the raw data. Light red and light blue lines represent ∆Ty in quartz and silica. Red circle and blue square symbols represent the average of 200 measurements. An odd response is detectable in quartz and absent in silica. (e) Temperature-dependence of −κx y in Quartz#1 (red circles) and in Quartz#2 (pink triang… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Thermal Hall angle and thermal Hall resistivity (a) The thermal Hall angle, |κx y/κx x | (red circles), and the longitudinal thermal conductivity, κx x (black diamonds), near their maximum values. They peak at 15.4 K and 16 K, respectively. Light red and gray vertical stripes highlight the vicinity and the partial overlap of the two peaks.(b) Maximum |κi j |/B as a function of maximum κj j in different ins… view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: Field-induced twist angle between thermal energy flux and entropy flux In both a molecular gas and a phonon gas, there are two channels of heat flow between the hot and the cold sides. Each channel is associated with an entropy flux with different proportionality factors, β. If the application of an external magnetic field does not affect both channels identically, a misalignment between the entropy flux a… view at source ↗

read the original abstract

The observation of a misalignment between the applied heat flux and the measured temperature gradient in insulating solids induced by magnetic field has become a subject of experimental investigation, theoretical speculation, and unsettled controversy. To identify the origin of this phonon thermal Hall effect, we performed a comparative study of longitudinal and transverse heat transport in crystalline (quartz) and vitreous (silica) SiO$_2$ using identical experimental set-ups and thermometers. A finite signal was detected in the crystalline samples and none in the amorphous sample, within our resolution. The cleaner crystal exhibited a larger thermal Hall conductivity than the dirtier one, ruling out disorder as the driver of the effect. On the other hand, the amplitude of the transverse thermal resistivity is almost identical in the two crystalline samples (W$_{\perp}$/B$\approx 10^{-6}$ m.K.W$^{-1}$.T$^{-1}$). We show that in a phonon gas, as in a molecular gas displaying the Senftleben-Beenakker effect, heat is conducted through two channels, and argue that a thermal Hall response is unavoidable whenever these channels differ both in entropy production and in their coupling to the magnetic field. Under such conditions, the conserved energy current and the non-conserved entropy current cease to be parallel. Finally, the magnitude of the transverse thermal resistivity can be accounted for by a surprisingly simple picture. The heat flux induces a tiny drift velocity of the lattice nuclei, the magnetic field exerts a transverse Berry force on this drift, and this force is balanced by an entropic restoring force.

Editorial analysis

A structured set of objections, weighed in public.

Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

Experiment cleanly rules out disorder as the driver of the phonon thermal Hall effect by showing it in quartz but not silica, yet the two-channel argument stays qualitative.

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The main point is that the thermal Hall signal shows up in crystalline quartz and vanishes in amorphous silica under identical conditions, and it is larger in the cleaner crystal. This directly undercuts disorder-based explanations and makes the case that the effect needs an ordered lattice. The fact that the transverse resistivity magnitude stays roughly the same across the two crystals is also useful data. The comparative setup is the paper's clearest strength; it removes a lot of the usual experimental ambiguity in this field. The two-channel phonon picture, modeled on the Senftleben-Beenakker effect, is presented as the reason the energy and entropy currents stop being parallel when the channels differ in entropy production and magnetic coupling. That qualitative argument is plausible on its face. The simple drift-velocity plus Berry-force estimate is offered to match the observed size of W_perp/B. The soft spot is that neither the channel distinction nor the Hall term is worked out with explicit transport equations or error propagation. The magnitude match looks post-hoc rather than independently derived, which leaves the mechanism more as a sketch than a calculation. This work is aimed at people following the phonon thermal Hall controversy in insulators. The experimental contrast is solid enough to merit referee attention even if the theory needs more steps. I would send it for peer review.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript reports a comparative study of longitudinal and transverse thermal transport in crystalline quartz and vitreous silica using identical setups. A finite thermal Hall signal is observed in the crystals (larger in the cleaner sample), with none detected in the amorphous sample within resolution; this rules out disorder as the origin. The transverse thermal resistivity magnitude is similar across crystals (W_perp/B ≈ 10^{-6} m K W^{-1} T^{-1}). The authors argue that phonon heat conduction occurs via two channels differing in entropy production and magnetic-field coupling (analogous to the Senftleben-Beenakker effect), rendering the conserved energy current and non-conserved entropy current non-parallel and thereby generating a thermal Hall response. A simple nuclear-drift plus Berry-force picture is invoked to account for the observed magnitude.

Significance. If the central experimental contrast holds, the work would be significant for establishing that the phonon thermal Hall effect is intrinsic to the crystalline state rather than disorder-driven. The use of matched experimental conditions for crystal versus glass provides a clean test. The proposed two-channel mechanism offers an intuitive analogy to known molecular-gas effects, and the simple magnitude estimate is a strength if it can be placed on a rigorous, parameter-free footing. These elements could help resolve ongoing controversies in thermal Hall transport in insulators.

major comments (2)

[theoretical discussion of the phonon gas model] The two-channel phonon argument (following the experimental results) asserts that channels differing in entropy production and B-coupling make energy and entropy currents non-parallel, but supplies no explicit transport equations, Boltzmann-equation derivation, or current expressions demonstrating that this difference necessarily produces a Hall term. This step is load-bearing for the claim that the response is 'unavoidable'.
[magnitude estimate paragraph] The simple drift-velocity and Berry-force picture is stated to account for the observed W_perp/B ≈ 10^{-6} m K W^{-1} T^{-1}, yet no independent calculation, error propagation, or first-principles estimate is provided; the magnitude appears matched to the data rather than predicted, undermining the explanatory claim.

minor comments (2)

[experimental methods] Error bars and resolution limits for the null result in silica should be quantified explicitly, including thermometer calibration details.
[results presentation] Notation for thermal resistivity components (W_perp, W_parallel) should be defined at first use and kept consistent with standard tensor notation.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of our manuscript and for highlighting the strengths of the experimental comparison between quartz and silica. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the suggested improvements.

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Referee: [theoretical discussion of the phonon gas model] The two-channel phonon argument (following the experimental results) asserts that channels differing in entropy production and B-coupling make energy and entropy currents non-parallel, but supplies no explicit transport equations, Boltzmann-equation derivation, or current expressions demonstrating that this difference necessarily produces a Hall term. This step is load-bearing for the claim that the response is 'unavoidable'.

Authors: We agree that the manuscript would be strengthened by an explicit derivation. In the revised version we will add a dedicated subsection deriving the thermal Hall conductivity from the two-channel Boltzmann transport equations. Starting from separate distribution functions for the two phonon channels (differing in entropy production and magnetic coupling), we will obtain the expressions for the energy current and entropy current and show that their non-parallelism directly yields a finite Hall term. This will make the unavoidability of the response under the stated conditions mathematically explicit. revision: yes
Referee: [magnitude estimate paragraph] The simple drift-velocity and Berry-force picture is stated to account for the observed W_perp/B ≈ 10^{-6} m K W^{-1} T^{-1}, yet no independent calculation, error propagation, or first-principles estimate is provided; the magnitude appears matched to the data rather than predicted, undermining the explanatory claim.

Authors: We acknowledge that the estimate is order-of-magnitude and phenomenological rather than a parameter-free prediction. It is constructed from the measured longitudinal conductivity, an estimated nuclear drift velocity, and the Berry curvature scale set by the lattice constant. In the revision we will expand the paragraph to include the explicit steps of the estimate, the numerical values adopted for each parameter, and a brief discussion of the associated uncertainties. A full first-principles computation of the Berry force and scattering rates under magnetic field lies beyond the present scope but is a natural direction for follow-up work. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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Magnitude of transverse thermal resistivity accounted for by drift-velocity picture constructed around observed value

specific steps

fitted input called prediction [Abstract (final paragraph) and discussion of simple picture]
"Finally, the magnitude of the transverse thermal resistivity can be accounted for by a surprisingly simple picture. The heat flux induces a tiny drift velocity of the lattice nuclei, the magnetic field exerts a transverse Berry force on this drift, and this force is balanced by an entropic restoring force."

The picture is invoked specifically to match the experimentally observed W_perp/B amplitude (quoted earlier as ≈10^{-6} m.K.W^{-1}.T^{-1}). Without an a-priori calculation of drift velocity, Berry force strength, or entropic restoring coefficient independent of the measured transverse resistivity, the 'accounting' reduces to parameter adjustment that reproduces the input datum by construction.

full rationale

The paper's central argument for an unavoidable thermal Hall response rests on an assertion of two phonon channels differing in entropy production and magnetic coupling, with the conserved energy and non-conserved entropy currents becoming non-parallel. No explicit transport equations or independent derivation of the Hall term from those differences is supplied. The magnitude W_perp/B ≈ 10^{-6} is then 'accounted for' by a simple nuclear-drift + Berry-force picture whose parameters are not computed from first principles but aligned to the measured amplitude, reducing the explanation to a post-hoc fit renamed as accounting. This matches the fitted-input-called-prediction pattern with partial load-bearing on the two-channel premise.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the standard phonon-gas model plus the domain assumption of two distinct transport channels; no explicit free parameters or new invented entities are introduced beyond measured quantities.

axioms (1)

domain assumption In a phonon gas, heat is conducted through two channels that differ both in entropy production and in their coupling to the magnetic field.
Invoked directly to argue that a thermal Hall response is unavoidable and that energy and entropy currents are non-parallel.

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