arxiv: 2604.05004 · v3 · submitted 2026-04-06 · ⚛️ physics.hist-ph · q-bio.NC

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Causal Stance

Yoshiyuki Ohmura , Yasuo Kuniyoshi

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keywords physical causal closurecausal stancephysical stancemental causationphysical determinismmaterialismphilosophy of mindcausation theory

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The pith

Physical causal closure is defined only within the Causal Stance and should not be equated with physical determinism.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

This paper distinguishes between the Physical Stance, which concerns physical laws and determinism, and the Causal Stance, which involves theories of causation. It claims that physical causal closure, the idea that all physical events have physical causes, is properly located only in the Causal Stance. Equating it directly with physical determinism mixes these two perspectives. By maintaining the separation, it becomes possible to hold that the physical world is fully determined while still allowing mental events to have causal effects. This framework supports a materialist position that includes mental causation without conflict.

Core claim

Physical determinism belongs to the Physical Stance while physical causal closure is defined only within the Causal Stance, so the two should not be equated. This distinction permits reconstructing certain materialist positions to acknowledge mental causation without contradicting physical determinism. The study further proposes a linguistic framework that keeps physical causal closure from holding in the Causal Stance while leaving physical determinism intact in the Physical Stance.

What carries the argument

The distinction between the Physical Stance and the Causal Stance, which assigns physical determinism to descriptions of physical laws and physical causal closure to causal theories.

If this is right

Mental causation can coexist with physical determinism in a materialist view.
Certain materialist positions can acknowledge mental causation without contradicting physical determinism.
Physical causal closure need not hold under the Causal Stance.
A linguistic framework can maintain physical determinism separately from causal closure.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

This separation could apply to other domains where physical descriptions seem to conflict with higher-level explanations.
It suggests that debates on mental causation may stem from conflating different descriptive stances rather than inherent contradictions.
Exploring the linguistic framework might reveal new ways to model causal statements across physical and mental domains.

Load-bearing premise

The distinction drawn between the Physical Stance and the Causal Stance is a substantive and non-arbitrary separation that clarifies rather than redefines the underlying issues.

What would settle it

A case in which any description of physical causal closure inevitably requires assuming physical determinism, without the possibility of separating the stances, would falsify the central distinction.

read the original abstract

What is the meaning of physical causal closure? Jaegwon Kim explicitly adopts a conception of causation according to which physical causation is effectively identified with deterministic physical lawfulness, and equates it with physical determinism. While this conception is internally coherent, it differs from currently dominant theories of causation. Physics and the theory of causation serve different descriptive purposes. In this study, we refer to them, respectively, as the Physical Stance and the Causal Stance. Within this framework, physical determinism belongs to the Physical Stance, and physical causal closure is defined only within the Causal Stance. Consequently, the two should not be equated. On this basis, this study reconstructs Davidson's anomalous monism as a materialist position that acknowledges mental causation without contradicting physical determinism. Furthermore, we propose a linguistic framework in which physical causal closure does not hold in the Causal Stance while physical determinism remains intact in the Physical Stance.

Editorial analysis

A structured set of objections, weighed in public.

Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

The paper splits physical descriptions into a Physical Stance for determinism and a Causal Stance for causation to keep the two from being equated, which supports a reconstruction of anomalous monism.

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The main move is to treat physics and causation theory as serving separate purposes, so physical determinism stays in one stance while physical causal closure is confined to the other. This lets the authors keep a materialist picture that still allows mental causation, and they use it to recast Davidson's anomalous monism without the usual clash with closure. Kim's identification of the two is treated as one possible view rather than the only one. The argument is clean once the split is granted, and the linguistic framework they sketch at the end tries to make the separation operational. That part shows some care in trying to move beyond pure assertion. The reconstruction itself follows directly from the framework they set up. The soft spot is that the distinction still looks tailored to produce the desired result. The paper needs to give independent reasons for assigning a given description to one stance rather than the other, and it needs to show that the same physical process can be fully described in both without their contents coinciding. The abstract and the stress-test note suggest the motivation rests mainly on the claim that the purposes differ, which is true but thin if it does not come with assignment rules or a non-coincidence argument. Without those, the separation risks reading as definitional rather than discovered. This is for philosophers already working on mind-body issues, anomalous monism, or Kim-style closure arguments. A reader who wants conceptual tools to loosen the grip of closure on mental causation will get something from it, but it will not change methods in physics or neuroscience. I would send it to peer review. The argument is coherent on its own terms and engages the literature directly; a referee can test whether the stance distinction holds up once the authors supply the missing criteria.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript distinguishes the Physical Stance (physics and deterministic lawfulness) from the Causal Stance (theories of causation), arguing that physical causal closure is defined only within the latter and therefore should not be equated with physical determinism. On this basis it reconstructs Davidson's anomalous monism as a materialist position that permits mental causation without contradicting physical determinism, and proposes a linguistic framework in which causal closure fails in the Causal Stance while determinism remains intact in the Physical Stance.

Significance. If the distinction between stances can be shown to rest on independent, non-arbitrary criteria and to permit non-coincident full descriptions of the same physical processes, the work could clarify the relationship between determinism and closure in philosophy of mind. At present the argument appears to derive the desired separation directly from the definitional partition rather than from independent grounds.

major comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: the assertion that 'physics and the theory of causation serve different descriptive purposes' is offered without an assignment rule for placing a given description in one stance rather than the other, nor a demonstration that the same physical process can be exhaustively described in both stances without their contents coinciding. This renders the non-equation of determinism and closure a consequence of the framework choice rather than an independent result.
[Reconstruction of anomalous monism] Reconstruction section: the claim that anomalous monism is thereby rendered consistent with materialism and mental causation depends on physical causal closure holding only in the Causal Stance; without an explicit argument showing how this evades Kim-style exclusion worries while preserving the materialist commitment, the reconstruction remains schematic.

minor comments (2)

The proposed linguistic framework is mentioned in the abstract but requires a concrete illustration (e.g., a sample sentence or predicate assignment) to show how closure can fail while determinism is preserved.
Add explicit comparison to existing stance distinctions (e.g., Dennett's intentional/physical stances) to clarify novelty and avoid overlap.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the constructive report and the clear identification of points requiring elaboration. The distinction between stances is intended to rest on the differing descriptive aims of physics and causation theory, but we accept that the manuscript must supply explicit assignment criteria and non-coincident examples. We also agree that the reconstruction of anomalous monism needs a more detailed treatment of exclusion arguments. Revisions will address both issues directly.

read point-by-point responses

Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the assertion that 'physics and the theory of causation serve different descriptive purposes' is offered without an assignment rule for placing a given description in one stance rather than the other, nor a demonstration that the same physical process can be exhaustively described in both stances without their contents coinciding. This renders the non-equation of determinism and closure a consequence of the framework choice rather than an independent result.

Authors: We agree that the abstract and opening sections require an explicit assignment rule. In the revised manuscript we will add a dedicated subsection that defines the rule as follows: a description belongs to the Physical Stance if and only if it is formulated exclusively in terms of deterministic dynamical laws and initial conditions; it belongs to the Causal Stance if and only if it invokes causal relations (counterfactual dependence, intervention, or production) that may or may not be deterministic. We will then supply concrete, non-coincident descriptions of the same physical process—for example, the firing of a neuron—first as the solution to a deterministic differential equation in the Physical Stance and second as a causal claim linking a mental property to that firing in the Causal Stance. Because the two descriptions answer different questions (law-governed evolution versus explanatory dependence), their contents do not coincide. This separation is therefore grounded in the independent purposes of the two descriptive enterprises rather than in an arbitrary partition. revision: yes
Referee: [Reconstruction of anomalous monism] Reconstruction section: the claim that anomalous monism is thereby rendered consistent with materialism and mental causation depends on physical causal closure holding only in the Causal Stance; without an explicit argument showing how this evades Kim-style exclusion worries while preserving the materialist commitment, the reconstruction remains schematic.

Authors: The referee is correct that the present reconstruction is schematic on this point. In the revised version we will expand the relevant section to include a direct reply to the exclusion argument. The key move is that exclusion applies only to rival causal claims made within a single descriptive framework. Once causal closure is restricted to the Causal Stance, a mental event can figure in a causal explanation without competing against a physical causal claim inside that same stance; the Physical Stance continues to supply a complete deterministic account of the same events but does not itself assert causal closure. Materialism is preserved because every token event remains physical and subject to deterministic physical law. We will also note that this stance-relative treatment is consistent with Davidson’s original strict-law requirement, which operates inside the Physical Stance. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Physical/Causal Stance distinction is introduced by definition to separate determinism from causal closure

specific steps

self definitional [Abstract]
"Physics and the theory of causation serve different descriptive purposes. In this study, we refer to them, respectively, as the Physical Stance and the Causal Stance. Within this framework, physical determinism belongs to the Physical Stance, and physical causal closure is defined only within the Causal Stance. Consequently, the two should not be equated."

The framework is explicitly constructed by assigning determinism to one stance and causal closure exclusively to the other; the non-equation is therefore true by the choice of definitions rather than by any external derivation or empirical constraint.

full rationale

The paper's central move defines the Physical Stance as containing physical determinism and the Causal Stance as the sole locus of physical causal closure, then concludes the two cannot be equated. This separation is not derived from independent evidence or criteria for stance assignment; it follows directly from the framework's construction. The abstract supplies no assignment rule or non-coincidence demonstration, rendering the reconstruction of anomalous monism dependent on the definitional partition itself.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 2 axioms · 2 invented entities

The central claim rests on the postulated distinction between two stances and the adoption of Kim's identification of causation with deterministic lawfulness; both are introduced without external empirical or formal grounding.

axioms (2)

domain assumption Physical causation is identified with deterministic physical lawfulness
Explicitly adopted from Jaegwon Kim's conception as stated in the abstract.
ad hoc to paper Physics and the theory of causation serve different descriptive purposes
Introduced as the basis for separating the two stances.

invented entities (2)

Physical Stance no independent evidence
purpose: To isolate deterministic physical lawfulness
New term created to house physical determinism without causal closure.
Causal Stance no independent evidence
purpose: To isolate discussion of causation including mental causes
New term created so that causal closure can be restricted to this stance.

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