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Crossed product functors associated to ell^p-pseudofunctions
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The pith
ℓ^p-pseudofunctions define crossed product functors whose algebras are isomorphic independent of Hilbert space representation
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The Banach algebras related to operators acting on Hilbert valued ℓ^p-spaces are isomorphic with the isomorphism constant depending only on p, regardless of the choice of Hilbert space representation of the underlying C*-algebra. As a result, their C*-envelopes are isometrically isomorphic. This allows the construction of well-behaved crossed product functors using ℓ^p-pseudofunctions that generalize the group case, and shows that for certain non-amenable actions the resulting crossed product completions are exotic.
What carries the argument
The Banach algebras of operators on Hilbert-valued ℓ^p-spaces, which the authors prove are independent of the Hilbert space representation up to a p-dependent isomorphism constant.
If this is right
- The crossed product functors are well-behaved according to the criteria of Buss, Echterhoff and Willett.
- The construction generalizes the earlier one studied in the group case.
- The C*-envelopes of the algebras are isometrically isomorphic.
- For certain non-amenable actions, the crossed product completions are exotic.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The result could be tested by applying the functors to concrete examples of non-amenable group actions to observe the exotic completions directly.
- The family of functors parameterized by p may provide new ways to distinguish dynamical systems that are not captured by the standard reduced or maximal crossed products.
- The representation-independence proof might adapt to other Banach space valued constructions in the study of exotic C*-completions.
Load-bearing premise
That the Banach algebras defined via operators on Hilbert-valued ℓ^p-spaces are isomorphic independently of the choice of Hilbert space representation of the underlying C*-algebra, with the isomorphism constant depending only on p.
What would settle it
Finding a C*-algebra with two different Hilbert space representations such that the corresponding Banach algebras from the ℓ^p-pseudofunctions are not isomorphic.
read the original abstract
We show that the $\ell^p$-pseudofunctions, which were recently shown to lead to exotic completions of group $C^*$-algebras by Wiersma and the second named author, can be used to construct well-behaved crossed product functors in the sense of Buss, Echterhoff and Willett. The construction proceeds via introducing certain Banach algebras, related to operators acting on Hilbert valued $\ell^p$-spaces, which a priori depend on the choice of a Hilbert space representation of the underlying C*-algebra. We prove that, in fact, the resulting algebras are isomorphic (with the isomorphism constant depending only on $p$), and hence their C*-envelopes are isometrically isomorphic. This, in particular, means that the construction genuinely generalises the one studied earlier in the group case. The tools we develop allow us to show that for certain non-amenable actions, the resulting crossed product completions must indeed be exotic.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript constructs crossed product functors from ℓ^p-pseudofunctions by defining Banach algebras of operators acting on Hilbert-valued ℓ^p-spaces. These algebras a priori depend on the choice of Hilbert space representation of the underlying C*-algebra. The authors prove that the algebras are isomorphic via an explicit comparison map with norm controlled by a constant depending only on p (independent of the representation), implying that the associated C*-envelopes are isometrically isomorphic. This generalizes the earlier group-case construction. The same estimates are applied to verify the Buss–Echterhoff–Willett functoriality axioms and to exhibit exoticness for selected non-amenable actions by comparing universal properties.
Significance. If the central claims hold, the work supplies a representation-independent generalization of exotic group C*-algebra completions to the crossed-product setting, with explicit norm estimates and a direct bijective comparison map between any two representations. The reuse of these estimates both to confirm the functor axioms and to produce concrete exotic examples for non-amenable actions constitutes a clear technical strength.
minor comments (2)
- The statement of the main isomorphism theorem (likely in §3 or §4) would benefit from an explicit sentence reminding the reader that the controlling constant depends only on p and not on the representation; this would make the independence claim immediately visible.
- A short paragraph comparing the p=2 case with the classical reduced crossed product (perhaps in the introduction) would help readers see precisely where the new construction diverges from the familiar one.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful and accurate summary of the manuscript, as well as for recognizing the technical contributions of the explicit comparison maps, norm estimates independent of the Hilbert space representation, and the verification of the Buss–Echterhoff–Willett axioms. We are pleased that the work is viewed as a natural generalization of the group case with concrete exotic examples. We will incorporate any minor revisions suggested for clarity or presentation in the revised version.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; derivation self-contained via explicit estimates
full rationale
The paper proves the key isomorphism of the Banach algebras (with p-dependent constant independent of Hilbert space representation) using direct comparison maps and norm estimates between any two representations, then reuses those to verify functoriality and exoticness. The citation to Wiersma-Samei supplies only background on the group-case exotic completions and is not load-bearing for the new isomorphism or crossed-product claims. No step reduces by construction to a fitted input, self-definition, or prior self-citation chain; the argument is externally falsifiable via the stated estimates and does not invoke uniqueness theorems or ansatzes from overlapping authors.
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