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Small and Complex I: The Three Component Structure of z sim 0 Massive Compact Quiescent Galaxies

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Massive compact quiescent galaxies mostly require three structural components unlike typical ones.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper examines the light profiles of 246 massive compact quiescent galaxies at low redshift through multi-component Sersic fits to g- and r-band images, comparing them against a control sample of average-sized quiescent galaxies matched in stellar mass, star formation rate, redshift, and color. It shows that 75 percent of the compact galaxies are best described by three components consisting of a central bulge, a disk, and an outer envelope, whereas only 7 percent of the control galaxies need such a model. Both samples are dominated by S0 galaxies with low rates of interactions or disturbances, but the compact galaxies lack bars entirely and their disks are substantially smaller. The envelopes display a wide range of ellipticities, which the authors link to possible stellar halos or thick disks.

Core claim

Multi-component decompositions of the g- and r-band images show that 75% of massive compact quiescent galaxies require a three-component model (bulge, disk, and envelope), while only 7% of control sample galaxies exhibit a comparable three-component structure. For three-component systems the bulge and envelope sizes are similar between samples, but the disks in compact galaxies are significantly more compact.

What carries the argument

Three-component Sersic decomposition separating a bulge, a disk, and an envelope in galaxy surface brightness profiles.

If this is right

  • The prevalence of three components ties the overall compactness of these galaxies to the presence of both a compact disk and an extended outer part.
  • Similar bulge and envelope sizes across samples but smaller disks in compact galaxies indicate that disk scale length is a primary driver of the observed compactness.
  • The absence of bars in compact galaxies suggests dynamical differences from normal quiescent galaxies that may reflect distinct formation paths.
  • The broad range of envelope ellipticities supports the interpretation that this component is either a stellar halo or a thick disk.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the components prove physically real, these galaxies likely experienced an early dense core formation followed by later addition of disk and envelope material.
  • Kinematic maps could test whether the envelope rotates independently of the inner disk, providing a direct check on its identity as a halo or thick disk.
  • Repeating the same decompositions on higher-redshift compact quiescent galaxies would show whether the three-component structure is already in place at earlier epochs.

Load-bearing premise

The three fitted Sersic components represent physically distinct galactic structures rather than fitting artifacts or projection effects from inclination.

What would settle it

Integral-field spectroscopy that shows the envelope component has no distinct kinematics or stellar populations from the disk would indicate the three components are not separate structures.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.09733 by A. C. Santiago-Menezes, A. Schnorr-M\"uller, F. Ferrari, F. Palacios, K. Slodkowski Clerici, M. Trevisan, R. Merib-Dias, T. V. Ricci, W. L. Becker.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Sample selection: SDSS quiescent galax￾ies are shown in orange, MCGs in red, and CSGs in green. Top panel: log Re versus log σe with a linear fit of log re = 0.8784 · log σe − 1.2265 (σfit = 0.2287). Bottom panel: log σe versus log M⋆ and a linear fit of log σe = 0.2538 · log M⋆ − 0.5622 (σfit = 0.0865). WISE Legacy Catalog (GSWLC; Salim et al. 2018). Effective radii (Re), defined as the semi-major axis of… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Comparison of stellar mass (M⋆), star formation rate (SFR), redshift (z), and g − i color for MCGs from HSC-SSP (red filled histograms) and CSGs from HSC-SSP (green step histograms). The dashed lines indicate the median values of each sample. P-values from Kolmogorov–Smirnov tests are shown in each panel. Galaxies in the MCG and control samples were matched based on four properties: stellar mass, star form… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Example of an MCG fitted with three structural components (bulge, disk, and envelope). Displayed from left to right are the r-band image, the PSF convolved model, the residuals and the surface brightness profile of the galaxy and the individual model components. All panels are masked using the corresponding galaxy mask. smaller than 10◦ , the same bounds (set to ±10◦ around the median PA) were adopted for … view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Morphological classification of MCGs and CSGs. In the top panel we show the numerical t-type, in the bottom panel we show PS0, which gives the probability of an early type galaxy (t-type < 0) being classified as an S0. The pa￾rameters were extracted from the morphological catalog of Dom´ınguez S´anchez et al. (2018). between the two samples, rather than to provide a pre￾cise census of such features, we rel… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Example RGB composite images of representative three-component MCGs (top row) and CSGs (bottom row). Galaxies in both samples exhibit similar structures, with stellar disks embedded within a rounder, low–surface-brightness envelope. 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 Disk 1 2 3 Density KS p = 6.258e-13 MCG (2 comp, N=42) MCG (3 comp, N=186) 2 comp = 0.36 ± 0.18 3 comp = 0.65 ± 0.15 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5… view at source ↗
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Disk ellipticity (ϵDisk) distributions for two- and three-component MCGs and CSGs. Severely disturbed and barred galaxies were excluded. Three-component systems tend to show higher ϵDisk, consistent with the detectability of the envelope being affected by inclination. ded within rings. No bars are detected in MCGs, and only three MCGs show rings. These rings differ from those observed in CSGs, as they are … view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Structural properties of 3C-MCGs (186 galaxies) and 3C-CSGs (35 galaxies). The first row shows the S´ersic index, effective radius, and ellipticity of the bulge component. The second row presents the disk scale length, scale height, and the ratio between them. In the third row, we show the effective radius and ellipticity of the stellar envelope, and the fourth row displays the flux-to-total ratio of each … view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: Mass-size relation of the the bulge (blue cir￾cles), disk (orange triangles) and envelope (green squares) of 3C-MCGs. Best fitting relations are shown as colored dashed lines. Bulge and disk mass–size relations for z ∼ 0 early-type disks (dashed black line) and bulges (dot–dashed black line) from Lange et al. (2016), and relations for 0.5 < z < 1.0 quiescent disks (solid black line) and 1.0 < z < 1.5 quies… view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Dark matter halo masses of MCGs and CSGs. Central galaxies are shown in the top panel, satellites on the bottom panel. Both MCGs and CSGs are found across a va￾riety of environments. Most are central galaxies of low-mass halos or satellites in massive groups and galaxy clusters. 4.6. Environment and Morphology It is well established that galaxy environment and morphology are correlated, in the sense that g… view at source ↗
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Envelope ellipticity (left panel), disk-to-total (center panel), and envelope-to-total (right panel) flux ratios for central (75 galaxies) and satellite (117 galaxies) 3C-MCGs. Median values are indicated by dashed lines. No statistically significant differences are found between the samples, disfavoring a major role for disk heating by frequent tidal interactions in shaping the outer structure of 3C-MCGs… view at source ↗
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: (g − r) restframe color distribution of the disk (orange), bulge (blue) and envelope (green) components of 3C-MCGs. Median values are indicated by dashed lines. While the bulge and disk exhibit similar distributions, the envelope show bluer colors. shows a structure resembling a peanut bulge, while the r- and i-band image shows no clear evidence for the presence of such structure. In conclusion, the heter… view at source ↗
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: RGB composite images of relic candidates. Except for MCG 9, all are best-fitted by three-component models. These galaxies do not show any significant difference in relation to the parent MCG sample except for their extremely compact sizes. quire detailed dynamical studies; however, several argu￾ments disfavor (but do not rule out) this interpretation. First, in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_12.png] view at source ↗
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We investigate the morphology and structural properties of 246 massive compact quiescent galaxies (MCGs; $\log M_{\star} \sim 10$-$11$, $\sigma_{\mathrm{e}} \sim 150$-$350\,$km\,s$^{-1}$, $R_{\mathrm{e}} \sim 0.7$-$2.5\,$kpc) at $z \sim 0$, selected as outliers in the stellar mass-velocity dispersion and velocity dispersion-size relations, using $g$-, $r$-, and $i$-band Hyper Suprime-Cam images. We compare them to a control sample of average-sized quiescent galaxies (CSGs) matched in stellar mass, star formation rate, redshift, and $g-i$ color. Both samples are dominated by S0 galaxies, comprising $93\%$ of MCGs and $71\%$ of CSGs, while ellipticals account for $4\%$ and $11\%$, respectively. The fraction of interacting or morphologically disturbed systems is low in both samples ($13\%$ for MCGs and $16\%$ for CSGs). Multi-component decompositions of the $g$- and $r$-band images show that $75\%$ of MCGs require a three-component model (bulge, disk, and envelope), while $21\%$ are best fit by two components and $4\%$ by a single S\'ersic profile. Two-component MCGs are preferentially low-inclination systems, suggesting that the three-component fraction represents a lower limit. In contrast, only $7\%$ of CSGs exhibit a comparable three-component structure. Bars are present in $29\%$ of CSGs but are absent in MCGs. For three-component systems, MCGs and CSGs have similar bulge ($R_\mathrm{e}=0.39$ vs.\ $0.45$\,kpc) and envelope ($R_\mathrm{e}=6.4$ vs.\ $5.8$\,kpc) sizes, while MCG disks are significantly more compact ($R_\mathrm{e}=1.9$ vs.\ $3.3$\,kpc). The envelope component shows a broad ellipticity distribution ($\epsilon_\mathrm{Envelope} \sim 0.0$-$0.6$), which we interpret as corresponding to either a stellar halo or a thick disk.

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Referee Report

3 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript analyzes the structural properties of 246 massive compact quiescent galaxies (MCGs) at z ≈ 0 using multi-component Sersic decompositions on Hyper Suprime-Cam g- and r-band images, comparing them to a control sample of average-sized quiescent galaxies (CSGs) matched in stellar mass, SFR, redshift, and g-i color. It reports that 75% of MCGs require a three-component model (bulge, disk, and envelope) while only 7% of CSGs do, with MCG disks significantly more compact (Re ≈ 1.9 kpc vs. 3.3 kpc for CSGs); both samples are dominated by S0 galaxies (93% and 71%), show low interaction rates, and the envelope component is interpreted as a stellar halo or thick disk based on its broad ellipticity distribution.

Significance. If the decompositions prove robust, the work demonstrates that MCGs possess a distinct three-component structure absent in typical quiescent galaxies of similar mass and color, with implications for formation scenarios involving early compaction and subsequent disk assembly. The matched control sample, large sample size, and absence of bars in MCGs are notable strengths that could constrain simulations of galaxy structural evolution. The finding that MCG disks are more compact than those in CSGs while bulges and envelopes have similar sizes provides a concrete observational benchmark.

major comments (3)
  1. [§3] §3 (image decomposition methods): The precise model-selection criterion for adopting a three-component fit (e.g., Δχ² threshold, BIC/AIC difference, F-test, or visual inspection) is not stated. Because Sersic profiles are flexible, an extra component will always improve the fit; without this statistic or recovery tests on mock images, the reported 75% vs. 7% difference cannot be confidently attributed to physical structure rather than fitting degrees of freedom.
  2. [§4] §4 (results on two-component systems): The statement that two-component MCGs are preferentially low-inclination (implying the three-component fraction is a lower limit) lacks a quantitative comparison, such as axis-ratio histograms or a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, between the two-component MCG subsample and the full CSG sample to confirm that inclination distributions are comparable.
  3. [§3] §3 (robustness of fits): No details are provided on fitting convergence, parameter uncertainties, or tests against mock galaxies with known components and realistic PSF convolution. These checks are load-bearing for the central fractions, size comparisons (e.g., disk Re = 1.9 vs. 3.3 kpc), and the claim that three-component models are physically distinct.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract and §4: The abstract states decompositions were performed on g- and r-band images, but the full text should clarify whether i-band data were used for any component constraints or only for morphology classification.
  2. [§4] §4: The envelope ellipticity range (εEnvelope ∼ 0.0–0.6) is given without quoting the median or standard deviation; adding these statistics would aid comparison to literature halo or thick-disk samples.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major point below and have revised the paper to incorporate additional methodological details and statistical tests as recommended.

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  1. Referee: [§3] §3 (image decomposition methods): The precise model-selection criterion for adopting a three-component fit (e.g., Δχ² threshold, BIC/AIC difference, F-test, or visual inspection) is not stated. Because Sersic profiles are flexible, an extra component will always improve the fit; without this statistic or recovery tests on mock images, the reported 75% vs. 7% difference cannot be confidently attributed to physical structure rather than fitting degrees of freedom.

    Authors: We agree that the precise model-selection criterion should be stated explicitly. In the revised manuscript, we will describe our use of a BIC improvement threshold (ΔBIC > 10) along with visual inspection of residuals to decide on the number of components. We will also add recovery tests on mock galaxies to show that the fitting procedure reliably identifies three-component structures when present and does not overfit two-component systems, thereby supporting the reported difference between MCGs and CSGs. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§4] §4 (results on two-component systems): The statement that two-component MCGs are preferentially low-inclination (implying the three-component fraction is a lower limit) lacks a quantitative comparison, such as axis-ratio histograms or a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, between the two-component MCG subsample and the full CSG sample to confirm that inclination distributions are comparable.

    Authors: We agree that a quantitative comparison is needed to support the claim. In the revised manuscript, we will include axis-ratio histograms comparing the two-component MCGs to the CSG sample and report the results of a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test on their distributions. This will provide the statistical evidence for the inclination bias and confirm that the three-component fraction is indeed a lower limit. revision: yes

  3. Referee: [§3] §3 (robustness of fits): No details are provided on fitting convergence, parameter uncertainties, or tests against mock galaxies with known components and realistic PSF convolution. These checks are load-bearing for the central fractions, size comparisons (e.g., disk Re = 1.9 vs. 3.3 kpc), and the claim that three-component models are physically distinct.

    Authors: We acknowledge the importance of these robustness checks. The revised manuscript will include details on the convergence criteria used during fitting, the uncertainties on the derived parameters (such as effective radii), and results from tests on mock galaxies with known components convolved with the appropriate PSF. These additions will strengthen the reliability of the reported fractions and size comparisons. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: purely empirical decomposition fractions from image fits

full rationale

The paper reports observed fractions (75% of MCGs vs 7% of CSGs requiring three-component Sersic models) obtained by fitting g- and r-band images of two matched samples. No equation, parameter fit, or self-citation reduces the reported three-component fraction to itself by construction; the result is a direct count of which models are selected by the fitting procedure on external photometric data. The analysis contains no derivation chain, uniqueness theorem, ansatz smuggled via prior work, or renaming of a known result. Minor self-citations (if present) are not load-bearing for the central empirical claim.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

1 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the assumption that Sersic-profile multi-component fits recover physically meaningful structures and that the outlier selection in mass-velocity dispersion and velocity dispersion-size relations cleanly isolates a distinct population.

free parameters (1)
  • Sersic indices and effective radii per component
    Fitted per galaxy during decomposition; central claim depends on the resulting component counts and sizes.
axioms (2)
  • domain assumption Sersic profiles adequately describe the light distribution of bulge, disk, and envelope components
    Invoked when performing the multi-component decompositions described in the abstract.
  • domain assumption The control sample matching removes all relevant selection biases
    Used to interpret the difference in three-component fraction as intrinsic.

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