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· Lean TheoremFeedback vertex sets of planar digraphs with fixed digirth
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The pith
In planar digraphs of digirth g the minimum feedback vertex set has size at most (n-2)/(g-2).
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The authors prove that every planar digraph G of digirth g has a feedback vertex set of size at most (n-2)/(g-2). This follows from showing that the minimum size of a feedback vertex set is equal to the maximum number of arc-disjoint directed cycles that can be packed under the planarity constraint, providing a planar-digraph version of the Lucchesi-Younger min-max theorem. The bound is paired with constructions of infinite families of planar digraphs of fixed digirth g that force feedback vertex sets of size roughly n/g.
What carries the argument
The equality between the minimum feedback vertex set and the maximum packing of certain directed cycles in planar digraphs, serving as a planar analogue of the Lucchesi-Younger theorem.
If this is right
- For every g at least 3, the supremum of fvs_g(n)/n over all n is at most 1/(g-2).
- For g at least 6 the same supremum lies between (g+2)/g^2 and 1/(g-2), shrinking the previous gap by a factor of roughly g.
- For g equal to 4 or 5 the new upper bound improves earlier estimates by an additive constant.
- Infinite families of planar digraphs of any fixed digirth g at least 4 exist whose minimum feedback vertex sets are asymptotically at least (g+2)n/g^2 in size.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The min-max equality may hold in digraph classes that are not planar but still forbid certain minors.
- The cycle-connection construction technique could be adapted to produce lower-bound examples in other surface embeddings.
- Computational checks on small instances would directly test whether the equality between feedback vertex set size and cycle packing holds in every planar digraph.
Load-bearing premise
That the minimum feedback vertex set size in a planar digraph is at most the maximum number of arc-disjoint cycles of the special type used in the packing.
What would settle it
A single planar digraph of digirth g in which the smallest feedback vertex set is strictly larger than (n-2)/(g-2), or strictly larger than the maximum size of a packing of the relevant directed cycles.
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read the original abstract
Let $fvs(G)$ denote the size of a minimum feedback vertex set of a digraph $G$. We study $fvs_g(n)$, which is the maximum $fvs(G)$ over all $n$-vertex planar digraphs $G$ of digirth $g$. It is known in the literature that $\lfloor\frac{n-1}{g-1}\rfloor \le fvs_g(n)$ and $fvs_3(n)\le \frac{3n}{5}$, $fvs_4(n)\le \frac{n}{2}$, $fvs_5(n)\le \frac{2n-5}{4}$ and $\lfloor\frac{n-1}{g-1}\rfloor \le fvs_g(n) \le \frac{2n-6}{g}$ for $g \ge 6$. In particular for $g \ge 6$, $\frac{1}{g-1}\le \sup_{n \ge 1} \frac{fvs_g(n)}{n} \le \frac{2}{g}$. We improve all lower and upper bounds starting with digirth 4. Namely, we show that $fvs_g(n)\le \frac{n-2}{g-2}$ for all $g\geq 3$, by proving that the minimum feedback vertex set is at most the maximum packing of a special type of directed cycles. This last result is a planar-digraph analogue of the celebrated Lucchesi-Younger theorem and is of independent interest. On the other hand, we develop a new tool to construct planar digraphs of fixed digirth and large $fvs$ by connecting arc-disjoint directed cycles. Using it, we provide constructions of infinite families of planar digraphs of digirth $g\ge 4$ and large $fvs$. These constructions together with our upper bound show that $\frac{g+2}{g^2} \le \sup_{n \ge 1} \frac{fvs_g(n)}{n} \le \frac{1}{g-2}$ for all values $g \ge 6$, except $g =7$, for which the lower bound is different. We thus decrease the gap between the lower and the upper bound for $\sup_{n \ge 1} \frac{fvs_g(n)}{n}$ from $\frac{g-2}{g(g-1)}$ to $\frac{4}{g^2(g-2)}$. For $g = 7$ this gap goes from $\frac{5}{42}$ to $\frac{1}{55}$. For digirth 4 and 5, both improvements are by an additive constant.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript studies the function fvs_g(n), defined as the largest possible size of a minimum feedback vertex set in an n-vertex planar digraph with digirth g. It proves a new upper bound fvs_g(n) ≤ (n-2)/(g-2) for g ≥ 3 by establishing a min-max theorem equating (or bounding) the minimum feedback vertex set size to the maximum packing of certain special directed cycles, which is presented as a planar digraph version of the Lucchesi-Younger theorem. The paper also introduces a construction technique for connecting arc-disjoint directed cycles to create planar digraphs with fixed digirth and large feedback vertex sets, leading to improved lower bounds on the asymptotic ratio sup fvs_g(n)/n for g ≥ 4 and a reduced gap between lower and upper bounds on this ratio.
Significance. If the proofs hold, this paper makes a valuable contribution to extremal graph theory for directed planar graphs. The analogue of the Lucchesi-Younger theorem provides a new structural tool for planar digraphs, and the explicit constructions allow for concrete improvements in the known bounds, narrowing the gap in the density from (g-2)/(g(g-1)) to 4/(g^2(g-2)) for g ≥ 6 (with a special case for g=7). The work is of independent interest due to the cycle packing result.
minor comments (2)
- Abstract: the lower bound for g=7 is described only as 'different' without stating the explicit value; adding the precise expression would improve completeness.
- Section introducing the min-max theorem: the precise definition of the 'special type of directed cycles' should be stated with formal notation immediately upon first use to aid readers.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive and accurate summary of our manuscript, as well as for recommending minor revision. The report correctly captures the main results, including the new upper bound via the planar-digraph analogue of the Lucchesi-Younger theorem and the improved constructions narrowing the asymptotic gap.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity
full rationale
The paper proves its key upper bound fvs_g(n) ≤ (n-2)/(g-2) by establishing a new min-max relation (min FVS size ≤ max packing of special directed cycles) that is proved directly in the manuscript as a planar-digraph analogue of Lucchesi-Younger; this is an independent theorem rather than a self-definition or fitted input. Lower-bound constructions rely on explicit arc-disjoint cycle connections whose planarity and exact digirth are verified by direct embedding arguments, not by renaming known results or smuggling ansatzes via self-citation. No load-bearing self-citations, no uniqueness theorems imported from the authors' prior work, and no reduction of any claimed prediction to its own inputs by construction. The derivation chain is self-contained.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Planar digraphs admit embeddings in the plane without arc crossings, and digirth is the length of the shortest directed cycle.
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