arxiv: 2605.12458 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-12 · 🌌 astro-ph.SR

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Elemental Abundances in the Binary Star V505 Per

Catherine A. Pilachowski, Derek Sikorski, Gloria Koenigsberger, Maria Cordero, Zohreh Safari Forushani

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Abundance analysis of V505 Per shows mostly solar [X/Fe] ratios with manganese deficiency and effective temperatures positioning both stars on the hot edge of the lithium dip.

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This research examines the chemical makeup of two stars that form an eclipsing binary system called V505 Per. By studying high-resolution light spectra from these stars, the team used a computer program called MOOG to calculate the amounts of various elements present. They looked at iron, lithium, silicon, sodium, calcium, manganese, and nickel. The stars' temperatures were found to be about 6650 K and 6550 K. These temperatures place the stars at the hotter side of a known feature in star evolution called the lithium dip, where lithium is often depleted. The abundances of most elements are similar to those in the Sun, but manganese appears lower than expected. Binary stars like this are useful because they share the same age and composition, allowing better comparison. The analysis involved testing different temperature assumptions to find the best fit where element abundances don't change with the energy levels of the spectral lines. This helps ensure the results are reliable. The findings suggest the stars are in a transitional zone for lithium behavior.

Core claim

Our analysis of the effective temperatures shows that both stars lie on the hot edge of the lithium dip, consistent with Koenigsberger et al. (2025), which may help resolve the inconsistency noted of the stars lithium abundance within the dip by Baugh et al. (2013).

Load-bearing premise

The assumption that minimizing abundance trends with excitation potential accurately determines the effective temperatures and that the model atmospheres used are appropriate for these stars without additional corrections for binary effects or other phenomena.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.12458 by Catherine A. Pilachowski, Derek Sikorski, Gloria Koenigsberger, Maria Cordero, Zohreh Safari Forushani.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Illustrative segment of the normalized spectrum of V505 Per. relative weights used in the analysis were derived from the stellar luminosities, which depend on the radii of the stars (RB/RA = 0.97895) and the effective temperatures (TB/TA = 0.9928). Assuming blackbody radiation in the optical regime, the ratio of continuum contributions can be expressed as: wA wB = RA RB 2 TA TB 4 (1) The weighting fa… view at source ↗

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We present a detailed chemical abundance analysis of the eclipsing binary system V505 Per. High resolution spectra were analyzed using the MOOG spectrum analysis code, and we determined abundances not only for iron and lithium but also for Si, Na, Ca, Mn, and Ni, elements that have not previously been analyzed in detail for this system. Abundances were computed across 15 temperature points using model atmospheres, with stellar parameters refined by minimizing abundance trends with excitation potential. We determined effective temperatures of T_eff = 6650 +/- 50 K for the primary and T_eff = 6550 +/- 50 K for the secondary, with iron abundances of [Fe/H] = -0.10 +/- 0.06 and [Fe/H] = -0.19 +/- 0.07, respectively. Most [X/Fe] ratios are consistent with solar values, though manganese is deficient. Our analysis of the effective temperatures shows that both stars lie on the hot edge of the lithium dip, consistent with Koenigsberger et al. (2025), which may help resolve the inconsistency noted of the stars lithium abundance within the dip by Baugh et al. (2013).

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

V505 Per gets its first multi-element abundances and a lithium-dip temperature placement, but the composite-spectrum handling for Teff needs explicit checks.

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This paper delivers the first detailed abundances for Si, Na, Ca, Mn, and Ni in the eclipsing binary V505 Per, along with refined effective temperatures that place both stars on the hot edge of the lithium dip. That placement aligns with Koenigsberger et al. (2025) and could address the earlier inconsistency with Baugh et al. (2013) on the lithium abundances. The numbers come with uncertainties and show most [X/Fe] ratios near solar except for a clear manganese deficiency. They also give [Fe/H] = -0.10 for the primary and -0.19 for the secondary at Teff of 6650 K and 6550 K. The approach uses MOOG with a grid of model atmospheres and minimizes iron abundance trends versus excitation potential to set the parameters. That is a standard and reproducible step for single-star work, and extending the element list beyond prior iron and lithium results is the concrete addition here. The analysis appears careful where described in the abstract, and the consistency checks with existing literature are straightforward. The main soft spot is the binary spectrum treatment. The observed data are a flux-weighted composite, yet nothing in the provided description shows spectrum disentangling, explicit light-ratio corrections, or adjustments for possible tidal or irradiation effects. If the excitation balance was run on the blended spectrum without those steps, a 50 K systematic shift in Teff remains possible. That would matter for whether the components truly sit on the hot edge of the dip or move inside it. The stress-test note flags exactly this risk, and it is worth verifying in the full methods and line lists. This is a targeted abundance study on one well-known system. Readers focused on the lithium dip in binaries or on detailed spectroscopy of short-period systems would get direct use from the numbers. The thinking is clear and engaged with the cited papers, with no obvious internal contradictions. I would send it to peer review. The data are new and the claims are testable once the analysis pipeline is laid out for referees.

Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript presents a chemical abundance analysis of the eclipsing binary V505 Per based on high-resolution spectra analyzed with the MOOG code. Effective temperatures are reported as 6650 ± 50 K (primary) and 6550 ± 50 K (secondary), derived by iterating model atmospheres until Fe I abundances show no trend with excitation potential. Abundances are given for Fe ([Fe/H] = -0.10 ± 0.06 and -0.19 ± 0.07), Li, Si, Na, Ca, Mn, and Ni, with most [X/Fe] ratios near solar except for Mn. The central claim is that both stars lie on the hot edge of the lithium dip, consistent with Koenigsberger et al. (2025) and potentially resolving the inconsistency in lithium abundances noted by Baugh et al. (2013).

Significance. If the temperatures and abundances hold, the work supplies multi-element data for a well-studied eclipsing binary, useful for calibrating stellar evolution and mixing models. The placement at the hot edge of the Li dip adds a concrete observational anchor that could help reconcile prior measurements of lithium in this temperature regime.

major comments (1)

[Effective Temperature Determination (as described in the abstract and methods)] The effective temperatures are obtained by minimizing Fe I abundance trends with excitation potential using composite spectra and standard model atmospheres in MOOG. For an eclipsing binary the observed spectrum is flux-weighted; the analysis does not include spectrum disentangling, explicit modeling of the secondary's contribution, light ratio, or possible tidal/irradiation effects. This assumption is load-bearing for the headline claim, because a systematic 50–100 K offset would move one or both components relative to the lithium-dip boundary and undermine the stated consistency with Koenigsberger et al. (2025).

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] The abstract sentence 'the inconsistency noted of the stars lithium abundance within the dip by Baugh et al. (2013)' is grammatically awkward and should be rephrased for clarity (e.g., 'the inconsistency noted in the lithium abundances of the stars within the dip').
[Stellar Parameters and Abundance Analysis] A table listing the adopted atmospheric parameters, microturbulent velocities, surface gravities, and the specific Fe I lines used for the excitation-balance fits would improve transparency and reproducibility of the temperature and abundance results.

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We thank the referee for their thoughtful and detailed review of our manuscript. The single major comment raises an important methodological point regarding our treatment of the binary nature of V505 Per in the effective temperature determination. We address this comment directly below and indicate how we will strengthen the presentation in a revised version.

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Referee: The effective temperatures are obtained by minimizing Fe I abundance trends with excitation potential using composite spectra and standard model atmospheres in MOOG. For an eclipsing binary the observed spectrum is flux-weighted; the analysis does not include spectrum disentangling, explicit modeling of the secondary's contribution, light ratio, or possible tidal/irradiation effects. This assumption is load-bearing for the headline claim, because a systematic 50–100 K offset would move one or both components relative to the lithium-dip boundary and undermine the stated consistency with Koenigsberger et al. (2025).

Authors: We agree that the analysis uses the observed composite spectrum without spectrum disentangling or explicit modeling of the secondary's flux contribution, light ratio, or tidal/irradiation effects. This is a standard simplification when the two components have closely similar temperatures and luminosities, as is the case for V505 Per (nearly equal eclipse depths imply a light ratio near unity). Under these conditions the composite spectrum closely approximates a single-star spectrum at the mean parameters, and the excitation-balance method for T_eff remains robust because both stars contribute comparably to the Fe I lines. Prior studies of this system have used analogous composite-spectrum approaches. Nevertheless, we acknowledge that a 50–100 K systematic offset cannot be ruled out a priori and would affect the precise placement relative to the lithium-dip boundary. We will therefore revise the manuscript to add a dedicated subsection discussing these limitations, incorporating an estimate of the light ratio from the published light curve, and qualifying the lithium-dip consistency statement with the associated uncertainties. No change to the reported T_eff values themselves is required, but the discussion will be expanded. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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Abundance derivation via MOOG and excitation-potential minimization is independent of inputs

full rationale

The paper derives Teff by iterating model atmospheres in MOOG until Fe I abundances show no trend with excitation potential, then computes [X/Fe] ratios for multiple elements from the same spectra. The lithium-dip placement follows directly as a consequence of these Teff values. No equation or result reduces to a fitted parameter renamed as a prediction, no ansatz is smuggled via citation, and the reference to Koenigsberger et al. (2025) supplies only interpretive context rather than load-bearing justification for the reported abundances or temperatures. The analysis remains self-contained against external model atmospheres and standard spectroscopic methods.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The work relies on standard tools and assumptions in stellar spectroscopy. The temperatures are determined from the data rather than being purely free parameters, but the choice of model grid and minimization criterion introduces some fitting elements.

free parameters (1)

Effective temperatures = 6650 K for primary, 6550 K for secondary
Refined by minimizing abundance trends with excitation potential across 15 temperature points.

axioms (1)

domain assumption The MOOG spectrum analysis code and associated model atmospheres provide accurate abundance determinations when trends with excitation potential are minimized.
Central to the parameter refinement and abundance computation described.

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