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arxiv: 2605.13120 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-13 · 📡 eess.SY · cs.SY· math.OC

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D-Optimized Sampling Design for System Identification

Enrico Dozzi, Rodrigo A. Gonz\'alez, Tom Oomen

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keywords system identificationnonparametric estimationfrequency response functionnonuniform samplingD-optimalitymultisine excitationspectral leakage
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Irregular sampling times optimized for D-optimality improve the accuracy of nonparametric frequency response estimates under nonperiodic multisine excitation.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper develops a nonparametric frequency response estimator that works with nonperiodic multisine inputs and nonuniform sampling times. It then designs the sampling instants to maximize the determinant of the information matrix, which directly reduces the variance of the resulting estimates. This approach targets situations where periodic excitation and uniform sampling cannot be used. A sympathetic reader would care because it extends reliable frequency-domain identification to more practical, irregular measurement conditions without requiring signal periodicity.

Core claim

By selecting nonuniform sampling times that maximize the determinant of the Fisher information matrix associated with the nonparametric frequency response estimator, the variance of the estimates is reduced and spectral leakage is mitigated for nonperiodic multisine inputs.

What carries the argument

D-optimal design of nonuniform sampling instants that maximizes the determinant of the information matrix for the leakage-aware nonparametric FRF estimator.

If this is right

  • System identification becomes feasible in applications where only irregular sampling is available.
  • The estimator covariance can be shaped directly through choice of sampling instants rather than input redesign.
  • Leakage effects in the frequency domain are controlled by sampling design even without periodic signals.
  • The method yields explicit expressions for the asymptotic variance that can be minimized offline.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same sampling design principle could be applied to other nonparametric estimators such as impulse response or transfer function models.
  • In closed-loop experiments with timing jitter, the D-optimized points might be adapted online to maintain information content.
  • Extension to multi-input multi-output systems would require a matrix-valued version of the D-criterion on the sampling schedule.

Load-bearing premise

The nonparametric frequency response estimator stays unbiased and leakage-free when the input is nonperiodic and the sampling times are nonuniform.

What would settle it

If the empirical covariance of the frequency response estimates obtained with the proposed sampling times is not smaller than that obtained with uniform sampling under identical nonperiodic multisine excitation, the claimed improvement does not hold.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.13120 by Enrico Dozzi, Rodrigo A. Gonz\'alez, Tom Oomen.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Estimation accuracy of the least-squares FRF [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Information density of the least-squares FRF es [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
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Traditional system identification with multisine inputs relies on uniform sampling and periodic excitation to preserve Fourier orthogonality and avoid spectral leakage, limiting its use in scenarios with irregular sampling or nonperiodic inputs. This work investigates continuous-time system identification under nonperiodic multisine excitation and nonuniform sampling. We develop a nonparametric frequency response function estimator suited to such conditions and design irregular sampling schemes that enhance the informativeness of measurements and reduce spectral leakage. The proposed sampling scheme improve the statistical accuracy of system identification in settings where periodic excitation is impractical.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper develops a nonparametric frequency response function (FRF) estimator for continuous-time system identification under nonperiodic multisine excitation and nonuniform sampling. It further proposes D-optimal irregular sampling schemes intended to increase measurement informativeness and mitigate spectral leakage, with the claim that these designs improve statistical accuracy of system identification in applications where periodic excitation is impractical.

Significance. If the estimator is shown to be unbiased and leakage-free under the stated conditions, and if the D-optimized sampling demonstrably reduces variance without introducing bias, the work would extend classical frequency-domain identification to a broader class of practical measurement settings (embedded systems, event-triggered sampling, etc.). The explicit use of D-optimality on sampling locations is a potentially useful contribution provided the underlying estimator properties are rigorously established.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the nonparametric FRF estimator is asserted to remain unbiased and leakage-free for nonperiodic inputs and nonuniform sampling, yet no derivation, bias expression, or leakage bound is supplied. Standard leakage cancellation relies on periodicity and uniform grids; without an explicit proof that residual bias terms remain independent of sampling irregularity, the subsequent D-optimization of sampling points cannot be guaranteed to improve statistical accuracy.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that the proposed sampling scheme improves statistical accuracy rests on the unproven assumption that the FRF estimator stays unbiased under the new conditions. A load-bearing error analysis (bias and variance expressions) or Monte-Carlo validation under controlled irregularity is required before the optimality result can be accepted.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: subject-verb agreement error ('The proposed sampling scheme improve' should read 'improves').

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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Thank you for the opportunity to respond to the referee's comments. We believe the work provides a valuable extension to frequency-domain identification methods, and we address the concerns regarding the estimator properties below.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the nonparametric FRF estimator is asserted to remain unbiased and leakage-free for nonperiodic inputs and nonuniform sampling, yet no derivation, bias expression, or leakage bound is supplied. Standard leakage cancellation relies on periodicity and uniform grids; without an explicit proof that residual bias terms remain independent of sampling irregularity, the subsequent D-optimization of sampling points cannot be guaranteed to improve statistical accuracy.

    Authors: The referee correctly identifies that the current manuscript does not include an explicit derivation of the bias and leakage properties for the nonparametric FRF estimator under nonperiodic multisine excitation and nonuniform sampling. We agree that a rigorous proof is necessary to support the claims. In the revised manuscript, we will add a dedicated section providing the bias expression, variance analysis, and a bound on the leakage error that demonstrates independence from sampling irregularity for the given excitation class. This will also justify the D-optimization step. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that the proposed sampling scheme improves statistical accuracy rests on the unproven assumption that the FRF estimator stays unbiased under the new conditions. A load-bearing error analysis (bias and variance expressions) or Monte-Carlo validation under controlled irregularity is required before the optimality result can be accepted.

    Authors: We concur that the improvement in statistical accuracy via D-optimal sampling presupposes the unbiasedness of the estimator. To address this, we will incorporate a comprehensive error analysis in the revision, including closed-form bias and variance expressions derived from the nonuniform sampling model. Additionally, we will include Monte-Carlo simulation results under varying degrees of sampling irregularity to empirically validate the unbiasedness and variance reduction. This will strengthen the foundation for the optimality claims. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: derivation remains independent of its fitted outputs

full rationale

The paper introduces a nonparametric FRF estimator for nonperiodic multisine inputs under nonuniform sampling and then optimizes sampling locations via the standard D-optimality criterion from experimental design. No equation or claim reduces the estimator, the leakage bound, or the optimality objective to a quantity that is defined by the same data or by a self-citation chain whose only support is the present work. The central construction therefore does not collapse into a tautology or a fitted-input-called-prediction; the derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Based solely on abstract; no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated.

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