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Persistence, Thresholds, and Trait Composition in a Regulated Mutation-Selection Model

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keywords mutation-selectionpopulation persistencedensity-dependent regulationtrait compositionquasi-equilibriumdiffusion approximationextinction thresholdseffective mortality
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Mutation induces an effective mortality rate that determines whether the population can be sustained in a regulated two-trait model.

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The paper examines a population model with two traits evolving under mutation, selection, and density-dependent regulation. A deterministic large-population limit produces a nonlinear system that couples logistic growth to mutation-selection dynamics. Threshold conditions emerge showing that mutation adds an effective mortality rate controlling persistence. When inheritance dominates mutation, a further threshold appears so that establishment also depends on the starting mix of traits. The model further describes long-lived quasi-equilibria before extinction and a change in the sign of trait correlations under a diffusion approximation.

Core claim

Mutation induces an effective mortality rate that determines whether the population can be sustained. When inheritance dominates mutation, a second threshold emerges: population establishment depends on initial trait composition as well as overall growth rates. Although extinction ultimately occurs, the system typically exhibits long-lived quasi-equilibrium behaviour. A diffusion approximation provides a tractable description of this, and reveals a transition in the sign of trait correlations.

What carries the argument

The nonlinear system obtained as the deterministic large-population limit, coupling logistic growth with mutation-selection dynamics.

Load-bearing premise

The deterministic large-population limit accurately represents the underlying stochastic individual-based process for the purpose of identifying extinction and persistence thresholds.

What would settle it

Individual-based stochastic simulations for finite populations that test whether the observed probability of extinction crosses the deterministic thresholds at the predicted parameter values as total population size grows large.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.31146 by Phil. Pollett.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Simulations of numbers relative to N, together with trajectories of the deterministic model: trait 0 (red), trait 1 (blue), and, in plots (b) and (d) the total number (black). All simulations have N = 200. Plot (a) has λ = 0.6, q = 0.9, µ0 = 0.7, µ1 = 1. Plot (b) has λ = 2.5, q = 0.9, µ0 = 0.9, µ1 = 1. Plot (c) has λ = 1.8, q = 1, µ0 = 0.8, µ1 = 1. Plot (d) has λ = 6, q = 0.9, µ0 = µ1 = 1. Before addressin… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Trajectories of the deterministic model with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Trajectories of the deterministic model with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Trajectories of the deterministic model with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Simulation of the process X(t) = (X1(t), X2(t)) with N = 200, λ = 2.5, q = 0.9, µ0 = 0.9, µ1 = 1 over the time interval (0, 60). The approximating deterministic trajectory is also shown, together with a contour plot of the approximating discretised bivariate normal distribution. such that if un(s) = u for a particular s, then un(t) = u for all t > s. Such a distribution is called a stationary conditional d… view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: A comparison between the quasi-stationary distribution and the Ornstein–Uhlenbeck [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_6.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

We study a population model in which individuals carry one of two traits and evolve under mutation, selection, and density-dependent regulation. A deterministic large-population limit yields a nonlinear system coupling logistic growth with mutation-selection dynamics. We identify threshold conditions governing extinction, persistence, and long-term trait composition. In particular, mutation induces an effective mortality rate that determines whether the population can be sustained. When inheritance dominates mutation, a second threshold emerges: population establishment depends on initial trait composition as well as overall growth rates. Although extinction ultimately occurs, the system typically exhibits long-lived quasi-equilibrium behaviour. A diffusion approximation provides a tractable description of this, and reveals a transition in the sign of trait correlations. The model thus illustrates how mutation, selection, and resource limitation jointly shape both ecological persistence and evolutionary outcomes.

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper examines a regulated mutation-selection model with two traits in a population subject to mutation, selection, and density-dependent regulation. Using a deterministic large-population limit, it obtains a nonlinear ODE system and identifies thresholds for extinction, persistence, and trait composition. Mutation creates an effective mortality rate affecting sustainability, and when inheritance dominates, establishment depends on initial trait composition. A diffusion approximation describes quasi-equilibrium behavior and a transition in trait correlations.

Significance. If validated, the results could illuminate how mutation and selection interact with resource limitation to determine both ecological persistence and evolutionary trait dynamics. The composition-dependent threshold and the diffusion approximation for long-lived quasi-equilibria represent potentially valuable contributions, provided the deterministic thresholds hold for the stochastic process.

major comments (2)
  1. [Deterministic large-population limit and threshold identification] The extinction and persistence thresholds are derived from the deterministic ODE system coupling logistic growth with mutation-selection dynamics. The manuscript does not supply analysis or simulations confirming that these thresholds correctly separate certain extinction from positive survival probability in the underlying stochastic individual-based process, where demographic stochasticity can induce extinction even when the deterministic equilibrium density is positive, particularly near the mutation-induced effective mortality threshold.
  2. [Diffusion approximation for quasi-stationary behaviour] While the diffusion approximation is used to describe trait correlations in the quasi-stationary regime after establishment, it does not resolve the potential discrepancy between deterministic and stochastic thresholds for the initial establishment phase itself.
minor comments (1)
  1. The abstract mentions 'one of two traits' but could specify the mutation rate matrix or selection coefficients for better context.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments on the connection between our deterministic analysis and the underlying stochastic process. We address each major comment below and indicate the revisions we will make to clarify the scope of the results.

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  1. Referee: The extinction and persistence thresholds are derived from the deterministic ODE system coupling logistic growth with mutation-selection dynamics. The manuscript does not supply analysis or simulations confirming that these thresholds correctly separate certain extinction from positive survival probability in the underlying stochastic individual-based process, where demographic stochasticity can induce extinction even when the deterministic equilibrium density is positive, particularly near the mutation-induced effective mortality threshold.

    Authors: We agree that the manuscript centers on the deterministic large-population limit and does not include stochastic simulations or a full branching-process analysis to verify the thresholds in the individual-based model. This is a substantive limitation, especially near the effective-mortality threshold where demographic stochasticity can drive extinction with positive probability. In the revised version we will add a dedicated paragraph in the Discussion section that explicitly states the deterministic thresholds govern the large-population limit, notes the possible discrepancy for finite populations, and identifies stochastic validation as a natural direction for future work. revision: partial

  2. Referee: While the diffusion approximation is used to describe trait correlations in the quasi-stationary regime after establishment, it does not resolve the potential discrepancy between deterministic and stochastic thresholds for the initial establishment phase itself.

    Authors: The diffusion approximation is introduced only after the population has reached a positive density and is intended to capture quasi-stationary trait correlations, as stated in the abstract and Section 4. The thresholds governing initial establishment are obtained from the deterministic ODE system. We will revise the text in Sections 3 and 4 to make this separation explicit, adding a sentence that the diffusion description applies conditionally on successful establishment and does not address stochastic extinction risk during the establishment phase. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity detected; derivation is self-contained mathematical analysis

full rationale

The paper constructs a deterministic large-population limit from an individual-based stochastic process and extracts threshold conditions directly from the resulting nonlinear ODE system coupling logistic growth with mutation-selection. No equations, parameters, or claims in the abstract or description reduce by construction to fitted inputs, self-definitions, or load-bearing self-citations. The diffusion approximation is introduced separately for quasi-stationary behavior after establishment and does not retroactively define the persistence thresholds. The derivation chain is therefore independent of its target results.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Abstract-only; no free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated.

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