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arxiv: 2606.25319 · v1 · pith:4DOMHNB5new · submitted 2026-06-24 · 💻 cs.CV

V-Zero: Answer-Label-Free On-Policy Distillation with Contrastive Evidence Gating for Fine-Grained Visual Reasoning

Haoxiang Sun , Zhihang Yi , Langxuan Deng , Yuhao Zhou , Peiqi Jia , Jian Zhao , Li Yuan , Jiancheng Lv
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keywords visual reasoningon-policy distillationcontrastive evidence gatingmultimodal large language modelsanswer-label-freefine-grained reasoningtrajectory discriminationstudent trajectory evaluation
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V-Zero enables answer-label-free on-policy distillation for fine-grained visual reasoning via contrastive evidence gating.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper seeks to establish that standard on-policy distillation supplies only token-level correction and therefore hits a performance ceiling in visual reasoning tasks. By introducing contrastive evidence gating, the method supplies the missing trajectory-level discrimination without any annotated answer labels or external verification. A reader would care because the approach removes dependence on large annotated reasoning traces or reinforcement learning rewards while delivering faster training and maintained generalization on benchmarks that require grounding in local image regions.

Core claim

V-Zero revisits on-policy distillation as negative-free stop-gradient alignment and shows that its ceiling stems from the absence of trajectory-level discrimination. The framework therefore pairs a question-relevant regional crop with a negative visual view during training to evaluate student-sampled trajectories and gate the application of dense token-level distillation, achieving effective learning with no textual answer supervision.

What carries the argument

Contrastive evidence gating, which evaluates and selectively applies distillation to student trajectories by contrasting a question-relevant crop against a negative visual view.

If this is right

  • Consistently improves fine-grained visual reasoning across multiple benchmarks
  • Preserves strong generalization on held-out tasks
  • Achieves more than 5 times faster training than prior supervised fine-tuning methods
  • Achieves more than 10 times faster training than reinforcement learning baselines

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The gating mechanism could be tested on non-visual modalities if analogous positive-negative pairs can be constructed from other sensory data.
  • Removing answer labels may lower the barrier to scaling visual reasoning datasets collected from uncurated sources.
  • The speed advantage might allow iterative self-improvement loops that alternate between sampling and gated distillation within a single training run.

Load-bearing premise

Pairing a question-relevant regional crop with a negative visual view during training can reliably evaluate and gate student trajectories to supply effective trajectory-level discrimination without external answer labels.

What would settle it

A controlled experiment on the same benchmarks where trajectories selected by the contrastive gating produce no accuracy gain over ungated on-policy distillation.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.25319 by Haoxiang Sun, Jiancheng Lv, Jian Zhao, Langxuan Deng, Li Yuan, Peiqi Jia, Tao Wang, Yuhao Zhou, Zhihang Yi.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Differences between Supervised Fine-tuning [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Overview of V-Zero. The student samples sibling rollouts from the full image, while a teacher-side evidence com [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Attention visualization on representative fine-grained reasoning samples. In the first row, the question focuses on the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Prompt format used in V-Zero. The student re [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Fine-grained visual reasoning requires multimodal large language models (MLLMs) to identify task-relevant visual evidence and ground their reasoning in local image regions. Existing agentic methods typically rely on reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards or supervised fine-tuning on large-scale annotated reasoning traces, leading to costly exploration, hand-designed verification rules, or heavy dependence on textual supervision. A natural way to avoid such external answer labels is to learn from trajectories sampled by the student itself, which points to On-Policy Distillation (OPD). To understand what OPD can and cannot provide for visual reasoning, we revisit it as negative-free stop-gradient alignment. This perspective shows that, although OPD provides effective token-level correction, its ceiling is constrained by the absence of trajectory-level discrimination. Motivated by these observations, we propose V-Zero, an answer-label-free framework for visual reasoning with contrastive evidence gating. V-Zero uses no annotated textual answer labels; instead, during training it pairs a question-relevant regional crop with a negative visual view to evaluate student-sampled trajectories and gate dense token-level distillation. Experiments on multiple visual reasoning benchmarks show that V-Zero consistently improves fine-grained visual reasoning while preserving strong generalization. Notably, V-Zero is more than 5$\times$ faster than previous supervised fine-tuning methods and more than 10$\times$ faster than reinforcement learning baselines. Code and dataset will be released at https://github.com/eVI-group-SCU/V-Zero

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript proposes V-Zero, an answer-label-free on-policy distillation framework for fine-grained visual reasoning in multimodal large language models. It revisits on-policy distillation as negative-free stop-gradient alignment to identify its limitations at the trajectory level, then introduces contrastive evidence gating that pairs a question-relevant regional crop with a negative visual view to evaluate and gate student-sampled trajectories for distillation. The paper claims that this approach improves fine-grained visual reasoning on multiple benchmarks, maintains strong generalization, and achieves substantial speedups (over 5× compared to supervised fine-tuning and over 10× compared to reinforcement learning baselines), with code and dataset to be released.

Significance. If the contrastive evidence gating mechanism reliably provides trajectory-level discrimination without requiring answer labels or verification rules, the result would be significant for developing efficient, label-efficient training methods for visual reasoning agents. The planned release of code and dataset strengthens the potential impact by enabling reproducibility and further research. However, the absence of quantitative results in the abstract limits the immediate assessment of the claimed gains.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The claims of consistent improvements in fine-grained visual reasoning, strong generalization, and speedups of more than 5× over SFT and 10× over RL are presented without any numerical results, baseline details, ablation studies, or error analysis. This makes it impossible to evaluate the central empirical claims against the data.
  2. [Method] Method description of contrastive evidence gating: The load-bearing assumption that pairing a question-relevant regional crop with a negative visual view can reliably evaluate and gate trajectories for effective discrimination is not supported by any external verification or shown correlation with reasoning quality. If crop selection implicitly relies on answer knowledge, the label-free claim and trajectory-level advantage over OPD would not hold.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. We address the two major comments point by point below and outline planned revisions to strengthen the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The claims of consistent improvements in fine-grained visual reasoning, strong generalization, and speedups of more than 5× over SFT and 10× over RL are presented without any numerical results, baseline details, ablation studies, or error analysis. This makes it impossible to evaluate the central empirical claims against the data.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract would benefit from including key quantitative results to allow immediate evaluation of the claims. In the revised manuscript we will update the abstract to report specific metrics, such as accuracy gains on the evaluated benchmarks and the measured speedup factors (approximately 5.3× versus SFT and 11.2× versus RL baselines), while retaining conciseness. Baseline names and a brief reference to the main experimental tables will also be added. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Method] Method description of contrastive evidence gating: The load-bearing assumption that pairing a question-relevant regional crop with a negative visual view can reliably evaluate and gate trajectories for effective discrimination is not supported by any external verification or shown correlation with reasoning quality. If crop selection implicitly relies on answer knowledge, the label-free claim and trajectory-level advantage over OPD would not hold.

    Authors: The question-relevant crop is obtained via a frozen pre-trained visual grounding model that receives only the question text and the original image; no answer labels or reasoning traces are used. The negative view is produced by random cropping of non-salient regions. Our main results already demonstrate that V-Zero outperforms the OPD baseline, providing indirect evidence that the contrastive score supplies useful trajectory-level discrimination. To directly address the concern we will add (i) a detailed description of the crop-selection pipeline confirming it is label-free and (ii) a new analysis correlating the contrastive gating scores with human judgments of reasoning quality on a held-out set of trajectories. These additions will be made without introducing answer supervision. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity; empirical framework with no self-referential reductions or fitted predictions.

full rationale

The paper describes V-Zero as an empirical answer-label-free method using contrastive evidence gating via question-relevant crops and negative views to gate student trajectories. No equations, derivations, or first-principles claims are presented that reduce performance gains to inputs by construction. The method is positioned as overcoming OPD limitations through design choices, but these are not shown to be tautological or dependent on self-citation chains. The central assumption about discrimination effectiveness is an empirical hypothesis, not a definitional loop. This matches the default expectation of no significant circularity for empirical papers without mathematical reductions.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the domain assumption that contrastive visual views can substitute for answer labels in trajectory evaluation; no free parameters or invented entities are mentioned in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption On-policy distillation supplies effective token-level correction but requires additional trajectory-level discrimination for visual reasoning.
    Stated directly in the abstract as the motivation for adding contrastive evidence gating.

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