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On quiver skew braces, their ideals and products

Davide Ferri

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The pith

Quiver skew braces cannot be decomposed into a group of loops and vertices like connected groupoids can.

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The paper defines ideals and quotients for quiver skew braces using two different notions of morphisms. It also introduces both a classical semidirect product and a categorical semidirect product in the category of these objects. The central result shows that quiver skew braces, which are equivalent to braided groupoids, lack the decomposition that connected groupoids have into a single group of loops together with a set of vertices. This absence makes the theory of quiver skew braces richer and more varied than the corresponding theory for groupoids. A reader would care because the new definitions supply concrete tools for working with these structures at the intersection of groups and rings.

Core claim

Quiver skew braces or skew bracoids are equivalent to braided groupoids. We define ideals and quotients for them with respect to two notions of morphisms. We define a classical semidirect product à la Brown and a categorical semidirect product à la Bourn and Janelidze for the category of quiver skew braces. It is known that connected groupoids can be expressed as the datum of a group of loops and a set of vertices. We demonstrate how no such decomposition holds for quiver skew braces, which makes their theory richer than the theory of groupoids.

What carries the argument

The equivalence of quiver skew braces to braided groupoids, which transfers the non-decomposition property and supports the definitions of ideals and both kinds of semidirect products.

If this is right

Ideals and quotients become available for quiver skew braces under two morphism notions.
Classical semidirect products can be formed directly in this category.
Categorical semidirect products supply an additional construction method.
The missing decomposition separates quiver skew braces from groupoids and allows more varied internal structure.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

Braided groupoids may therefore possess internal constraints or additional data that ordinary groupoids do not.
The new ideals and products could be used to classify small examples or compute invariants.
Further work might examine how these constructions interact with the braided condition on the underlying groupoid.

Load-bearing premise

The equivalence between quiver skew braces and braided groupoids is strong enough to carry the non-decomposition result and to justify the new definitions of ideals and products without hidden extra conditions.

What would settle it

An explicit example of a connected quiver skew brace that decomposes as a group of loops together with a set of vertices would show the non-decomposition claim is false.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.11903 by Davide Ferri.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Reference picture for Theorem 3.21. Here each square tile represents an application of the braiding r, but the figure is not symmetric (unless r is involutive): thus the tiles should be understood as oriented, with application of r going from the top left to the bottom right. Proposition 3.23. With the above structures, H ▶<N is a quiver skew brace, and it is isomorphic to N >◀H ▶<N . Proof. The good defin… view at source ↗

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Quiver skew braces or skew bracoids are equivalent to braided groupoids, that is, groupoids with a constraint of abelianity. They are the quiver-theoretic version of skew braces, an increasingly studied structure lying in the intersection of group and ring theory. In this paper, we define ideals and quotients for quiver skew braces, with respect to two notions of morphisms. Following the track of a previous work of ours (2025), we define a classical semidirect product \`a la Brown, and a categorical semidirect product \`a la Bourn and Janelidze, for the category of quiver skew braces. It is known that connected groupoids can be expressed as the datum of a group of loops and a set of vertices. We demonstrate how no such decomposition holds for quiver skew braces, which makes their theory richer than the theory of groupoids.

Editorial analysis

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This paper defines ideals and quotients under two morphism notions for quiver skew braces, adds two semidirect products, and shows they lack the loop-group-plus-vertices decomposition of connected groupoids.

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The paper defines ideals and quotients for quiver skew braces under two notions of morphisms, introduces a classical semidirect product in the style of Brown and a categorical one in the style of Bourn and Janelidze, and demonstrates that these objects do not decompose into a group of loops plus a set of vertices the way connected groupoids do. The non-decomposition result and the explicit product constructions are the main new pieces. They extend the existing theory of skew braces by giving concrete ways to form quotients and combine structures while highlighting a structural difference from plain groupoids. The work follows the track of the author's prior 2025 paper on semidirect products without creating circularity, and the definitions appear motivated by the equivalence to braided groupoids. The negative result is useful because it shows the quiver version carries extra information that prevents the simple decomposition. The soft spot is the transfer step in the non-decomposition claim. The equivalence to braided groupoids must preserve connectedness and the loop data at vertices for the groupoid fact to imply the skew-brace fact, yet the abstract gives no definition of connectedness for quiver skew braces and no explicit check that the equivalence carries the property. If the full proofs supply that detail and confirm the new notions are well-defined under both morphism classes, the argument holds; otherwise the richer-theory conclusion needs more support. This is for specialists already working with skew braces, braided groupoids, or categorical algebra constructions. A reader who needs tools for quotients or products in this setting will get direct value from the definitions. The paper shows clear engagement with the literature and honest extension rather than overclaim. I would bring the definitions and the decomposition argument to a reading group. It deserves peer review to verify the equivalence details and the well-definedness of the new notions.

Referee Report

3 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper defines quiver skew braces (skew bracoids) and proves their equivalence to braided groupoids. It introduces ideals and quotients relative to two classes of morphisms, constructs both a classical semidirect product (following Brown) and a categorical semidirect product (following Bourn-Janelidze), and shows that, unlike connected groupoids, quiver skew braces do not decompose as a group of loops together with a vertex set.

Significance. If the equivalence is an equivalence of categories that preserves connectedness and the non-decomposition result transfers, the work supplies a strictly richer theory than that of groupoids, with new ideal and product constructions that extend skew-brace techniques into the quiver setting and may support further categorical and representation-theoretic applications.

major comments (3)

[Introduction and equivalence section] The abstract and introduction assert an equivalence to braided groupoids that is used to transfer the known non-decomposition of connected groupoids, yet no explicit definition of connectedness for quiver skew braces is given, nor is it verified that the equivalence functor sends connected objects to connected objects while preserving loop-group data at vertices; without this, the claim that the theory is richer does not follow.
[Section on ideals and quotients] The definitions of ideals and quotients are stated with respect to two morphism classes, but the manuscript does not supply an explicit check that these notions are well-defined under the equivalence to braided groupoids or that they are compatible with the two semidirect-product constructions; this verification is load-bearing for the subsequent development.
[Section on semidirect products] The categorical semidirect product is defined à la Bourn-Janelidze, but the paper does not indicate whether the resulting object remains a quiver skew brace when the factors are, nor does it compare the two semidirect products in a way that would confirm they are distinct from the groupoid case.

minor comments (2)

[Definitions] Notation for the two morphism classes should be introduced once and used consistently; currently the distinction is described only in prose.
[Introduction] The citation to the authors' 2025 work is used for the semidirect-product track; a brief self-contained recap of the relevant constructions would improve readability.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thorough review and insightful comments on our manuscript. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify and strengthen our presentation. Below, we provide point-by-point responses to the major comments, indicating the revisions we plan to make in the updated version.

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Referee: [Introduction and equivalence section] The abstract and introduction assert an equivalence to braided groupoids that is used to transfer the known non-decomposition of connected groupoids, yet no explicit definition of connectedness for quiver skew braces is given, nor is it verified that the equivalence functor sends connected objects to connected objects while preserving loop-group data at vertices; without this, the claim that the theory is richer does not follow.

Authors: We agree with the referee that an explicit definition of connectedness is required for rigor. In the revised manuscript, we will introduce a definition of connectedness for quiver skew braces by declaring a quiver skew brace connected precisely when the corresponding braided groupoid is connected. We will also include a verification that the equivalence of categories preserves connectedness and the loop-group structures at vertices. This will ensure that the non-decomposition result transfers appropriately and substantiate the claim that the theory of quiver skew braces is richer than that of groupoids. revision: yes
Referee: [Section on ideals and quotients] The definitions of ideals and quotients are stated with respect to two morphism classes, but the manuscript does not supply an explicit check that these notions are well-defined under the equivalence to braided groupoids or that they are compatible with the two semidirect-product constructions; this verification is load-bearing for the subsequent development.

Authors: The referee correctly identifies that explicit compatibility checks are needed to support the development. We will add detailed verifications in the revised paper, demonstrating that the ideal and quotient constructions are invariant under the equivalence functor to braided groupoids. Furthermore, we will show their compatibility with both the classical and categorical semidirect product constructions, ensuring the notions are well-defined in the equivalent category. revision: yes
Referee: [Section on semidirect products] The categorical semidirect product is defined à la Bourn-Janelidze, but the paper does not indicate whether the resulting object remains a quiver skew brace when the factors are, nor does it compare the two semidirect products in a way that would confirm they are distinct from the groupoid case.

Authors: We acknowledge the need to confirm closure under the categorical semidirect product. In the revision, we will prove that if the input quiver skew braces are closed under this operation, the result is again a quiver skew brace. Additionally, we will provide a direct comparison between the classical semidirect product (à la Brown) and the categorical one (à la Bourn-Janelidze), including examples or properties that distinguish them from their counterparts in the theory of groupoids, thereby highlighting the richer structure. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Minor self-citation for semidirect-product definitions; central non-decomposition claim remains independent

specific steps

self citation load bearing [Abstract]
"Following the track of a previous work of ours (2025), we define a classical semidirect product à la Brown, and a categorical semidirect product à la Bourn and Janelidze, for the category of quiver skew braces."

The semidirect-product constructions are explicitly placed on the track of the author's own prior paper rather than derived from first principles or external sources within this manuscript; however the citation is not used to justify the equivalence statement or the non-decomposition result that constitute the paper's strongest claim.

full rationale

The paper references its own prior 2025 work solely to motivate the definitions of classical and categorical semidirect products. The equivalence of quiver skew braces to braided groupoids and the explicit demonstration that no group-of-loops-plus-vertices decomposition exists are stated and developed within the present manuscript without reducing any equation or theorem to the cited work by construction. No self-definitional loops, fitted-input predictions, or load-bearing uniqueness theorems imported from overlapping authors appear in the derivation chain.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The paper relies on standard category-theoretic and group-theoretic background. No numerical parameters are fitted. The central objects are defined rather than postulated as new entities with independent evidence.

axioms (1)

standard math Standard axioms of category theory and groupoids (composition, identities, inverses).
Invoked implicitly when treating quiver skew braces as equivalent to braided groupoids and when defining morphisms and products.

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