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An improved bound for sumsets of thick compact sets via the Shapley--Folkman theorem
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The pith
Compact sets with Feng-Wu thickness at least c in R^d have Minkowski sum with nonempty interior once n exceeds sqrt(d) over (sqrt(1+c) minus 1) squared.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Let E1 through En be compact subsets of R^d each having positive diameter and Feng-Wu thickness at least c greater than zero. Then the sum E1 plus ... plus En has nonempty interior whenever n is larger than sqrt(d) divided by (sqrt(1 plus c) minus 1) squared, or equivalently larger than sqrt(d) times (sqrt(1 plus c) plus 1) squared over c squared. In particular the simpler bound n larger than 6 sqrt(d) over c squared works when 0 less than c less than or equal to 1. The proof obtains this by applying the radius form of the Shapley-Folkman theorem once to all summands simultaneously, which controls the distance from the sum to the sum of the convex hulls more efficiently than sequential one-s
What carries the argument
The radius form of the Shapley-Folkman theorem, which supplies an explicit bound on the distance between the sum of the sets and the sum of their convex hulls in terms of the number of nonconvex summands and their radii; this bound replaces the sequential enlargement used by Feng and Wu.
If this is right
- For any fixed dimension the required number of summands grows only quadratically rather than cubically in the reciprocal of thickness.
- The explicit bound n greater than 6 sqrt(d) over c squared suffices whenever thickness is at most one.
- The exponent on the reciprocal of c improves from three to two at the sole cost of a multiplicative factor linear in the square root of dimension.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same simultaneous convexification step could be tested on other quantitative notions of thickness or on sums taken in normed spaces other than Euclidean space.
- Low-dimensional numerical sampling of random thick compact sets might indicate whether the sqrt(d) prefactor can be removed or sharpened.
- Related sumset problems that currently rely on sequential enlargement techniques may admit analogous quadratic improvements.
Load-bearing premise
The sets are compact with positive diameter and Feng-Wu thickness bounded below by some fixed positive c, so the radius form of the Shapley-Folkman theorem applies directly to control the convexification error for the entire sum at once.
What would settle it
Find explicit compact sets in some dimension d with Feng-Wu thickness exactly equal to a chosen c greater than zero such that their sum has empty interior for an integer n strictly larger than sqrt(d) over (sqrt(1 plus c) minus 1) squared.
read the original abstract
Let $E_1,\dots,E_n \subset \mathbb{R}^d$ be compact sets of positive diameter with Feng--Wu thickness at least $c>0$. Feng and Wu proved that $E_1+\cdots+E_n$ has non-empty interior when $n>2^{11}c^{-3}+1$. We show that \[n>\frac{\sqrt d}{(\sqrt{1+c}-1)^2}=\frac{\sqrt d\,(\sqrt{1+c}+1)^2}{c^2}\] already suffices. In particular, since $0<c\le 1$, the bound $n>6\sqrt d\,c^{-2}$ is enough. For fixed dimension $d$, this improves the exponent in $c^{-1}$ from $3$ to $2$, while introducing only an explicit factor of $\sqrt d$. The proof replaces the one-summand-at-a-time enlargement of Feng--Wu by a simultaneous convexification step based on a radius form of the Shapley--Folkman theorem.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proves that if E_1, …, E_n ⊂ R^d are compact sets of positive diameter each having Feng–Wu thickness at least c > 0, then the Minkowski sum E_1 + ⋯ + E_n has non-empty interior once n exceeds √d / (√(1+c) − 1)^2 (equivalently bounded by 6√d ⋅ c^{-2} for 0 < c ≤ 1). This improves the earlier Feng–Wu threshold n > 2^{11} c^{-3} + 1 by replacing the sequential one-summand enlargement with a single simultaneous convexification step that invokes a radius form of the Shapley–Folkman theorem; the thickness parameter c controls the relevant non-convexity radii after normalization to unit diameter.
Significance. The result supplies a quantitatively sharper, fully explicit threshold for when sums of uniformly thick compact sets acquire interior points. The reduction of the exponent on c from 3 to 2 (modulo an explicit √d factor) and the global application of Shapley–Folkman constitute a clean technical improvement over the prior sequential argument. The bound is parameter-free in the sense that it depends only on d and c, which makes it immediately usable in applications within additive combinatorics and geometric measure theory.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the simplified form n > 6√d ⋅ c^{-2} is stated for 0 < c ≤ 1; a one-line verification that (√(1+c) + 1)^2 / c^2 ≤ 6 on this interval would make the constant transparent.
- [Proof] The manuscript should confirm that the radius form of Shapley–Folkman is applied with the precise non-convexity radii induced by the Feng–Wu thickness condition after the unit-diameter normalization; a short display of the radius estimate would aid verification.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive and encouraging report, which accurately summarizes the main result and its improvement over the prior Feng-Wu bound. We appreciate the recommendation to accept the manuscript.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity
full rationale
The central derivation applies an external radius form of the Shapley-Folkman theorem to the prior Feng-Wu thickness condition on compact sets of positive diameter. This yields the stated bound on n via simultaneous convexification, without any self-definitional steps, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, load-bearing self-citations, or ansatzes smuggled from the authors' prior work. The result is independent of the target interior-nonemptiness claim by construction and relies on externally verifiable theorems.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Feng-Wu thickness is well-defined for compact sets of positive diameter and satisfies the properties used in the enlargement argument
- standard math The radius form of the Shapley-Folkman theorem holds and can be applied simultaneously to the family of sets
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