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Self-Lensing Signals in Binary Systems Containing White Dwarfs with Neutron star or Stellar-mass Black hole Companions
Pith reviewed 2026-05-10 14:28 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
White dwarf binaries with neutron star or black hole companions produce self-lensing signals with probabilities of 10^{-3} to 10^{-2} that TESS could detect under stated assumptions.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Analytical calculations show the probabilities of self-lensing signals in WD+NS and WD+BH systems are ∼10^{-3} and ∼10^{-2}, maximized for low-mass white dwarfs revolving around massive neutron stars or black holes. Simulations of light curves under TESS and Roman observing protocols demonstrate that detectable events satisfy 1 ≤ orbital period ≤ observation window, SNR thresholds of 3 or 6, depth greater than twice the photometric error, and coverage by at least one datum. Such systems exhibit inclinations ≲0.2°, periods near 6–19 days, and event durations of 6–30 minutes, yielding detection efficiencies of ∼2–6×10^{-4} for TESS and ∼2–12×10^{-10} for Roman. TESS could therefore register at
What carries the argument
Finite-source self-lensing in edge-on WD+NS and WD+BH binaries, quantified via the normalized source radius ρ_star and used to generate occurrence probabilities together with synthetic light curves matched to telescope cadences.
If this is right
- WD+NS systems with periods ≲25 days show large finite-source sizes with ρ_star ≳1.
- WD+BH systems with periods ≳3 days exhibit small source sizes, reaching ρ_star ∼0.01 for black holes of several tens of solar masses.
- Detectable signals require orbital inclinations ≲0.2° and last 6–30 minutes.
- TESS detection efficiency lies between 2×10^{-4} and 6×10^{-4} while Roman efficiency is orders of magnitude lower.
- At least one event is expected in TESS data if the companion fractions reach the stated 8% and 3% levels.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- A confirmed detection would provide an independent photometric confirmation of compact-object companions to white dwarfs that does not require X-ray emission or radial-velocity monitoring.
- The observed rate of such events could be compared with binary population synthesis models to test the assumed fractions of white dwarfs paired with neutron stars or black holes.
- Similar calculations applied to ground-based surveys with different cadences might identify longer-period systems missed by space-based continuous monitoring.
Load-bearing premise
The conclusion that TESS might detect at least one signal rests on the external premise that 8% of white dwarfs have neutron-star companions and 3% have black-hole companions.
What would settle it
A search of TESS light curves for thousands of white dwarfs that returns zero events matching the predicted short-duration, high-inclination self-lensing signatures would falsify the expected detection rate under the assumed companion fractions.
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read the original abstract
Light curves from binary systems containing white dwarfs with neutron star or stellar-mass black hole companions (WD+NS and WD+BH) with edge-on orbital planes potentially show self-lensing/eclipsing signals. Here, we evaluate the properties and detectability of these signals in the NASA's Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS), and the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope (Roman) observations. WD+NS systems with orbital periods $T\lesssim25~$days mostly have considerable finite-source sizes with the normalized source radii $\rho_{\star}\gtrsim1$. WD+BH systems with $T\gtrsim3$ days have $\rho_{\star}\lesssim1$, and $\rho_{\star}\sim0.01$ for BHs with a few tens solar-mass. Our analytical calculations show the probabilities of occurring self-lensing signals in WD+NS and WD+BH systems are $\sim10^{-3},~10^{-2}$, and maximize for systems with low-mass WDs revolving massive NSs/BHs. We simulate their light curves and generate synthetic data for them by applying the observing protocols of these two satellites. We assume self-lensing signals are detectable if (i) $1\leq T\leq T_{\rm{obs}}$ (where $T_{\rm{obs}}=62~\rm{and}~27.4$ days are the Roman and TESS continuous observing windows), (ii) $\rm{SNR}\ge3,~6$, their signals are (iii) deeper than twice the photometric error, and (iv) covered by at least one datum. Systems with detectable self-lensing signals in the TESS and Roman observations on average have small inclination angles $i\lesssim0.2^{\circ}$, with the orbital periods $\sim6,~19~$days, and their signals last $\sim[6,~30]~\rm{minutes}$. The TESS and Roman efficiencies for detecting these signals are $\sim2-6\times10^{-4}$ and $\sim2-12\times10^{-10}$. Although detecting these self-lensing signals by Roman is impossible, the TESS telescope potentially manifests at least one self-lensing signal due to these binary systems, if $8\%,~\rm{and}~3\%$ of WDs have NS and BH companions.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript analytically derives the occurrence probabilities of self-lensing signals in WD+NS (~10^{-3}) and WD+BH (~10^{-2}) binaries, showing maximization for low-mass WDs with massive companions, and computes normalized source radii indicating finite-source effects for short-period WD+NS systems. It simulates light curves under TESS (T_obs=27.4 days) and Roman (T_obs=62 days) protocols, applies detectability cuts (1 ≤ T ≤ T_obs, SNR ≥ 3 or 6, depth > 2×photometric error, coverage by ≥1 datum), and reports average detectable systems with i ≲ 0.2°, periods ~6-19 days, and durations 6-30 minutes. Detection efficiencies are ~2-6×10^{-4} (TESS) and ~2-12×10^{-10} (Roman), leading to the conclusion that Roman detection is impossible while TESS could detect at least one signal if 8% of WDs have NS companions and 3% have BH companions.
Significance. If the derivations hold, the work supplies useful analytical expressions for self-lensing probabilities and ρ_★ in compact-object binaries, together with simulated light curves that quantify the stringent requirements (small inclinations, specific periods) for detection. The forward calculation from standard binary assumptions to efficiencies under realistic satellite protocols, without circularity in the central quantities, provides a concrete basis for assessing the rarity of these events and prioritizing follow-up strategies in white-dwarf population studies.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract and final results paragraph: the claim that TESS 'potentially manifests at least one' self-lensing signal is reached only after multiplying the derived p_selflens (~10^{-3}, 10^{-2}) and eff_detect (~2-6×10^{-4}) by externally assumed fractions f_NS=0.08 and f_BH=0.03. No population-synthesis derivation, citation, or sensitivity analysis for these fractions appears; the expected count N_WD × f_comp × p × eff therefore scales directly with them, and the headline statement is not robust if the true fractions differ by even a factor of a few.
- [Results on detectability] Simulation and detectability section: while the criteria (SNR thresholds, depth >2×error, coverage) are stated, the manuscript does not provide the exact mass-period distributions used to generate the synthetic population, the full error-propagation procedure, or the numerical values of photometric errors and sampling rates applied in the TESS/Roman mocks. This prevents independent verification of the reported efficiencies 2-6×10^{-4} and 2-12×10^{-10}.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Notation for orbital period is introduced as T but later appears as T_obs; a single consistent symbol or explicit definition would improve clarity.
- [Detectable systems paragraph] The range of signal durations [6,30] minutes is given without specifying whether it is the 16-84 percentile or full range of the detectable subsample; adding this detail would aid interpretation.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments, which have helped us improve the clarity and robustness of the manuscript. We address each major comment point by point below.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract and final results paragraph: the claim that TESS 'potentially manifests at least one' self-lensing signal is reached only after multiplying the derived p_selflens (~10^{-3}, 10^{-2}) and eff_detect (~2-6×10^{-4}) by externally assumed fractions f_NS=0.08 and f_BH=0.03. No population-synthesis derivation, citation, or sensitivity analysis for these fractions appears; the expected count N_WD × f_comp × p × eff therefore scales directly with them, and the headline statement is not robust if the true fractions differ by even a factor of a few.
Authors: We agree that the detection statement in the abstract is conditional on the adopted companion fractions and that the manuscript would benefit from greater transparency on this point. These fractions are drawn from observational estimates in the white-dwarf binary population literature rather than derived via new population synthesis within the present work. In the revised version we have (i) rephrased the abstract to make the conditional nature explicit, (ii) added a short sensitivity discussion in the final section showing how the expected TESS yield scales when f_NS and f_BH are varied by factors of 2–3, and (iii) inserted the relevant citations that motivated the original 8 % and 3 % values. These changes preserve the original numerical results while rendering the headline claim more robust. revision: partial
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Referee: [Results on detectability] Simulation and detectability section: while the criteria (SNR thresholds, depth >2×error, coverage) are stated, the manuscript does not provide the exact mass-period distributions used to generate the synthetic population, the full error-propagation procedure, or the numerical values of photometric errors and sampling rates applied in the TESS/Roman mocks. This prevents independent verification of the reported efficiencies 2-6×10^{-4} and 2-12×10^{-10}.
Authors: We acknowledge that the simulation section lacked sufficient detail for full reproducibility. In the revised manuscript we have expanded the relevant section and added an appendix that now specifies: (1) the exact mass–period distributions adopted for the synthetic WD+NS and WD+BH populations (drawn from standard binary-evolution prescriptions with explicit parameter ranges), (2) the complete error-propagation formulae, including how photometric uncertainties are computed from the published TESS and Roman noise models, and (3) the numerical values of photometric errors and sampling cadences used in the mock light-curve generation. With these additions the quoted detection efficiencies can be independently verified. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity; probabilities and efficiencies derived independently from external assumptions
full rationale
The paper performs analytical calculations for self-lensing occurrence probabilities (~10^{-3} for WD+NS, ~10^{-2} for WD+BH) based on orbital parameters, finite-source sizes, and inclination distributions. It then simulates light curves and applies external TESS/Roman observing protocols (SNR thresholds, photometric error criteria, coverage) to obtain detection efficiencies (~2-6e-4 for TESS). The final conditional statement multiplies by assumed companion fractions (8% NS, 3% BH) but does not derive or fit those fractions inside the work, nor does any central quantity reduce by the paper's equations to a self-defined input. No self-citations, ansatzes, or uniqueness theorems are invoked as load-bearing steps. The derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- Fraction of WDs with NS companions =
0.08
- Fraction of WDs with BH companions =
0.03
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Orbital inclinations are isotropically distributed
- domain assumption Standard mass and period distributions for WD+NS/BH binaries
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