REVIEW 4 major objections 5 minor 16 cited by
Energy-Based Transformers are Scalable Learners and Thinkers
T0 review · 4 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-06 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Energy-Based Transformers out-scale standard models by up to 35%
desk verdict Serious architecture work with public code, but the central scaling-rate claim is not supported because EBTs are compared at 6.66x the FLOPs per step. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the learned energy landscape $E_\theta(x,\hat y)$: a scalar field over input-candidate pairs whose minimum, reached by gradient descent, is the prediction. Training unrolls this optimization and backpropagates the final loss through it, which requires Hessian-vector products (linear in model size) rather than full Hessians. Three regularization techniques make the landscape smooth and convex enough to think over: a replay buffer that simulates longer optimization trajectories, Langevin noise for exploration, and randomized step size and number of optimization steps. The decoder-only EBT implementation also solves an engineering problem—each row's predicted next token differs, so the causal attention scores cannot be one matrix multiplication—by appending predicted representations as a superdiagonal in a $2N$-length sequence.
What would settle it
Train an EBT and a Transformer++ of the same size at about 7B parameters on about 1T tokens and fit their validation-loss scaling curves; if EBT's slope advantage over Transformer++ does not remain positive (or flips), the paper's extrapolation to foundation scale is false.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central discovery is that explicitly learning to verify the compatibility between an input and a candidate prediction—rather than learning to generate directly—makes both learning and thinking scale faster. An EBT assigns an energy (unnormalized likelihood) to every context-prediction pair; a prediction is made by starting from random noise and following the gradient of that energy to lower-energy candidates. Because the same network that produces the energy also serves as the verifier, no external reward model or verifier is needed, and the approach works for discrete text and continuous video/image spaces alike. The paper reports that EBTs generalize better than Transformer++ on most downstream tasks even when pretraining perplexity is slightly worse, and that thinking gains grow linearly with out-of-distribution shift.
Load-bearing premise
The central claim collapses if EBTs' faster scaling slope, measured on models up to 708M parameters and roughly 1e21 FLOPs, does not persist when data and model size grow by roughly a factor of a thousand.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- If the scaling-rate advantage persists, EBTs trained at 1000x data and model scale would beat Transformer++ even without inference-time thinking.
- Because thinking gains grow as data shifts out-of-distribution, EBTs offer a mechanism for robust OOD generalization at inference.
- Self-verification (best-of-N over candidate predictions) improves with training scale, so larger EBTs should benefit more from thinking, not less.
- In continuous modalities, EBTs provide per-prediction uncertainty from the energy scalar without discretization or auxiliary losses.
- Image denoising with EBTs reaches better PSNR with 99% fewer forward passes than DiTs, suggesting far cheaper diffusion-style inference.
Reading between the lines
- Editorial inference: if the energy values are well calibrated, EBTs could decide when to stop thinking, allocating compute per token based on energy convergence rather than a fixed budget; this is testable by comparing energy convergence with downstream correctness.
- The verification-as-generation view suggests EBTs could serve as a drop-in verifier for outputs of fast System 1 generators, replacing learned reward models; the paper only hints at this complementary use.
- The convex-landscape training objective explains the reported failure on multimodal data (e.g., text-to-image) as averaging of modes; adding multiple basins or mixture energies would be a direct test of that explanation.
- The paper's headline extrapolation to foundation scale rests on slopes measured below 708M parameters; a 7B-parameter, 1T-token comparison would either confirm or overturn it.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces Energy-Based Transformers (EBTs), a Transformer architecture trained as an energy-based model by unrolling a small number of gradient-descent steps on a candidate prediction and backpropagating through them. The authors claim that EBTs out-scale the standard Transformer++ recipe during pretraining across data, batch size, depth, parameters, FLOPs, and embedding width, with up to 35% higher scaling rates, and that at inference EBTs support System 2 Thinking through longer optimization and self-verification, improving language perplexity and image denoising relative to Transformer++ and Diffusion Transformers. The core evidence comes from small models (up to 708M parameters, at most about 10^21 FLOPs) with one training run per configuration. The paper is clearly written and includes extensive appendices with implementation details, pseudocode, and release of code. However, the central scaling-rate claim rests on comparisons that are not FLOP-matched, since EBTs consume substantially more compute per training step than Transformer++ under the authors' own accounting.
Significance. If the scaling-rate advantage were established, this would be a significant result: it would be the first demonstration that an energy-based, optimization-centric architecture out-scales the dominant feed-forward Transformer recipe on multiple axes while also providing a natural mechanism for inference-time verification. The paper's strengths include a concrete architecture with efficient causal attention for input-space predictions, a thoughtful discussion of energy-landscape regularization, a public code release, and a broad set of experiments spanning language, video, and image domains. The FLOP calculations in Section D.5 are unusually transparent, which is commendable but also highlights the central weakness: the claimed out-scaling across FLOPs is not supported by matched-compute comparisons. The thinking results are interesting but the current evidence is mostly qualitative or based on a small set of selected benchmarks, so the significance of the thinking claims is proportionate to the modest scale of the experiments.
major comments (4)
- [§D.5, Figures 4 and 5] The central claim that EBTs out-scale Transformer++ during pretraining is not yet supported because the comparisons are not FLOP-matched. As the authors state in Section D.5, an S1 EBT trained with two optimization steps consumes roughly 6.66× the FLOPs of a comparable Transformer++ step on the same tokens and outer steps. For the parameter and FLOP scaling experiments in D.1.1, all models are pretrained for 105k outer steps, so EBT points are systematically shifted to much larger cumulative compute. A steeper loss-vs-tokens curve under a 6.66× compute multiplier does not establish data efficiency or a higher scaling rate; it can simply reflect more compute per token. The separate FLOPs axis in Figure 5b uses these same approximate estimates, so the headline out-scaling across FLOPs is not established until matched-FLOP curves are provided, either by reducing EBT steps or by plotting loss against cumulative FLOPs with comparable total compute.
- [§D.1.1, Figures 4 and 5] All scaling rates are computed from a single training run per configuration, with no reported seeds, error bars, or confidence intervals. Scaling-law exponents are known to be fragile to implementation details, as the paper itself notes in D.1.1, and with only a few model sizes (Table D.1), the reported 35% differences could be within run-to-run or hyperparameter sensitivity. Multiple seeds, or at least a sensitivity analysis around the fitted exponents, are needed before claiming that EBTs consistently out-scale Transformer++ across all six axes.
- [Table 3 and §4.1.3] The generalization claim that EBTs generalize better than Transformer++ is based on four downstream tasks chosen deliberately for reasoning alignment, with EBT showing better perplexity on three of four tasks despite worse pretraining perplexity. There is no statistical significance testing, no error bars, and no evidence that the result holds across a broader, pre-registered set of benchmarks. The 29% more than Transformer++ thinking improvement in Figure 6a uses the same four tasks, so the selection issue propagates into the headline thinking claim. The paper should either broaden the evaluation or temper the claim to 'on the selected tasks' rather than a general generalization advantage.
- [Table 4 and §4.3] The bidirectional image-denosing comparison to DiT, while suggestive, does not yet establish that EBTs are broadly better than diffusion Transformers. The DiT baseline is used with its standard training setup and then evaluated with recursive DDIM denoising up to 300 forward passes, whereas EBTs are trained with a different objective and use only 3 passes. The comparison may conflate architectural differences with differences in training objectives, noising schedules, and inference procedures. At minimum, the paper should report matched-compute curves (e.g., PSNR vs. total FLOPs) for both models and clarify whether DiT was given any opportunity to train with a comparable number of optimization-style steps or a verification loss.
minor comments (5)
- [§D.5 vs. §H.3] There is an internal inconsistency in the reported FLOP overhead: Section D.5 says a single second-order optimization step is roughly 3.33× more expensive than a standard Transformer step, while the FAQ in H.3 says a single step makes training about a constant 1.66× as expensive. The authors should reconcile these numbers.
- [§4.1.1] The definition of scaling rate is never made explicit. The paper should state whether the reported percentages are slopes in log-log space, and how the fits were performed (e.g., least squares over which points).
- [Figure 6b and §B.1] The text says 'increasing up to 10%−14% from 4%−8%' in Figure 6b, but the figure caption and surrounding text do not clearly separate the two series. Please clarify the exact numbers and units in the caption.
- [§4.1.2] The claim that Transformer++ cannot improve performance at all from thinking longer is true by construction, since there is no per-token iterative optimization mechanism; this comparison is therefore not an empirical demonstration of EBT superiority but an architectural consequence. The text should present it as such.
- [§3.3, Algorithm 2] The self-verification procedure in Algorithm 2 returns the minimum-energy candidate, but the paper does not discuss how the energy scalar is calibrated across different inputs or whether comparing energies across different contexts is valid. A sentence on this would be useful.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: scaling and thinking results are measured against external baselines; self-citations are methodological and not load-bearing.
full rationale
The paper's central claims—higher pretraining scaling rates, System 2 Thinking improvements, and downstream generalization—are empirical measurements against external baselines (Transformer++ and DiT), not derivations from the model definition. The training objective and algorithms define the EBT procedure, but the scaling rates, perplexity values, PSNR/NFE curves, and ablations are evaluated rather than imposed by construction. Citations to prior EBM work by co-author Yilun Du ([48,51,67]) supply the training method and S2 design choices, yet the load-bearing evidence for the paper's scaling and generalization claims is the paper's own controlled experiments and ablations (Figures 4,5,6,12; Tables 2,3,4), with external baselines. The paper's own limitations (Section 7, A.8, D.5) concede that FLOP estimates are approximate and that scales beyond 800M parameters / ~10^21 FLOPs are untested; these are correctness and extrapolation risks, not circularity. The FLOP-matched comparison concern (EBT uses ~6.66x FLOPs per step per D.5) is a validity threat to the FLOP-scaling comparison, but it does not reduce any equation to its inputs: loss values are measured and slopes are fitted, not forced by definition. No step in the derivation chain is self-referential or equivalent to its inputs by construction.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (5)
- Optimization step count (N) =
2-3 optimization steps
- Optimization step size (alpha) =
500 (text), 30,000 (video)
- Langevin noise (sigma) =
3 (S2 NLP)
- Replay buffer size =
not specified
- Lower learning rate for EBT video models =
factor 3 lower than Transformer++
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption The energy landscape can be made sufficiently convex and smooth via the proposed regularization techniques so that gradient descent converges to good predictions.
- ad hoc to paper Backpropagating through a small number of unrolled optimization steps (2-3) is enough to learn a usable energy landscape.
- domain assumption Perplexity is a sufficiently linear metric to extrapolate downstream gains across OOD datasets.
- domain assumption The Hessian-vector product FLOP estimate (10N per token) is accurate enough for the FLOP scaling comparison.
invented entities (1)
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EBT energy scalar as an unnormalized likelihood and verifier
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read the original abstract
Inference-time computation techniques, analogous to human System 2 Thinking, have recently become popular for improving model performances. However, most existing approaches suffer from several limitations: they are modality-specific (e.g., working only in text), problem-specific (e.g., verifiable domains like math and coding), or require additional supervision/training on top of unsupervised pretraining (e.g., verifiers or verifiable rewards). In this paper, we ask the question "Is it possible to generalize these System 2 Thinking approaches, and develop models that learn to think solely from unsupervised learning?" Interestingly, we find the answer is yes, by learning to explicitly verify the compatibility between inputs and candidate-predictions, and then re-framing prediction problems as optimization with respect to this verifier. Specifically, we train Energy-Based Transformers (EBTs) -- a new class of Energy-Based Models (EBMs) -- to assign an energy value to every input and candidate-prediction pair, enabling predictions through gradient descent-based energy minimization until convergence. Across both discrete (text) and continuous (visual) modalities, we find EBTs scale faster than the dominant Transformer++ approach during training, achieving an up to 35% higher scaling rate with respect to data, batch size, parameters, FLOPs, and depth. During inference, EBTs improve performance with System 2 Thinking by 29% more than the Transformer++ on language tasks, and EBTs outperform Diffusion Transformers on image denoising while using fewer forward passes. Further, we find that EBTs achieve better results than existing models on most downstream tasks given the same or worse pretraining performance, suggesting that EBTs generalize better than existing approaches. Consequently, EBTs are a promising new paradigm for scaling both the learning and thinking capabilities of models.
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