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Do Joint Audio-Video Generation Models Understand Physics?

Chenming Ge, Feiyu Du, Hao Fang, Jiageng Liu, Mingwei Xu, Shijian Deng, Weiguo Pian, Xiulong Liu, Yapeng Tian, Zexin Xu, Zijun Cui

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classification 💻 cs.SD cs.AIcs.CVcs.MM
keywords audio-video generationphysical commonsensebenchmarkjoint multimodal modelsscene transitionscross-modal consistencyphysics violations
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The pith

Joint audio-video generation models generate plausible content but fail to maintain real-world physical consistency across transitions.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper introduces AV-Phys Bench to test if joint audio-video models understand physics or merely produce statistically likely outputs. It assesses models on steady scenes, event transitions, environment changes, and prompts that request impossible physics violations. Even the strongest models show sharp drops in performance on dynamic transitions and break down entirely on anti-physics requests, highlighting gaps in cross-modal consistency. This evaluation matters because these systems are approaching professional production quality, where violations of physical rules would limit their reliability in real applications. The authors also provide an automated ReAct-style agent using multimodal language models and acoustic tools that produces rankings close to human judgments.

Core claim

Joint audio-video generation models do not possess robust understanding of audio-visual physics. They perform adequately on steady-state scenes but degrade markedly on event-driven and environment-driven transitions. Leading proprietary and open-source systems all collapse when presented with Anti-AV-Physics prompts that request physically inconsistent audio-video pairings, indicating reliance on pattern matching rather than physical principles.

What carries the argument

AV-Phys Bench, a benchmark using three scene categories (Steady State, Event Transition, Environment Transition), Anti-AV-Physics prompts, and five evaluation dimensions of semantic adherence and physical commonsense.

Load-bearing premise

The five evaluation dimensions together give a sufficient and unbiased measure of physical understanding without needing further human validation or external physics simulators.

What would settle it

Running the top models on the Anti-AV-Physics prompts and finding that their generated audio and video both remain internally consistent with real physics, contrary to the benchmark scores, would challenge the conclusion that they lack robust physical understanding.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.07061 by Chenming Ge, Feiyu Du, Hao Fang, Jiageng Liu, Mingwei Xu, Shijian Deng, Weiguo Pian, Xiulong Liu, Yapeng Tian, Zexin Xu, Zijun Cui.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: In the physical world, vision and sound are two observations of the same physical event. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: AV-Phys Bench construction and evaluation pipeline. (a) A physics-grounded taxonomy organizes prompts by how the underlying physics evolve within a clip. Human-in-the-loop curation produces prompts that encode specific, verifiable acoustic outcomes, and each prompt is paired with a five-dimension evaluation rubric covering semantic adherence (SA) and physical commonsense (PC) across video (V), audio (A), a… view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: AV-Phys Bench’s three scene categories of physics-following prompts, with a per-category [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Worked rubric example for a Category-3 Environment Transition prompt. Top: four frames from the Seedance 2.0 generation showing the outdoor-to-indoor transition through a heavy door. Bottom: the prompt-specific rubric used for evaluation. V-SA and A-SA check whether the described visual entities and sounds are present. V-PC, A-PC, and AV-PC check whether the generated video, audio, and their alignment obey… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Seedance 2.0, Event Transition. The clip strikes the xylophone bars from the longest to the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Kling 3.0 Omni, Environment Transition. The clip captures the speaker submerging mid [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Veo 3.1, Event Transition. The clip places a large dog on the left and a small dog on the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: LTX-2.3, Environment Transition. The clip cuts from a packed stadium interior to an [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_8.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Ovi, Environment Transition. The fire truck is visible only in the first frame and then [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_9.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 10. Figure 10: JavisDiT++, Event Transition. The clip shows a person knocking gently three times and [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_10.png] view at source ↗
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: MagiHuman, Event Transition. The clip shows a guitarist plucking a string but never [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_11.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 12. Figure 12: Seedance 2.0, Steady State Anti-Physics. The model paints the gym floor with a thin layer [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_12.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 13. Figure 13: Seedance 2.0, Event Transition Anti-Physics. With the handheld microphone held close [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_13.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 14. Figure 14: Seedance 2.0, Environment Transition Anti-Physics. Before the helmet, the voice is clear [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_14.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 15. Figure 15: The human evaluation interface used to collect the labels in Section 3.3. The header [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_15.png] view at source ↗
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Joint audio-video generation models are rapidly approaching professional production quality, raising a central question: do they understand audio-visual physics, or merely generate plausible sounds and frames that violate real-world consistency? We introduce AV-Phys Bench, a benchmark for evaluating physical commonsense in joint audio-video generation. AV-Phys Bench tests models across three scene categories: Steady State, Event Transition, and Environment Transition. It covers physics-grounded subcategories drawn from real-world scenes, plus Anti-AV-Physics prompts that deliberately request physically inconsistent audio-video behavior. Each generation is evaluated along five dimensions: visual semantic adherence, audio semantic adherence, visual physical commonsense, audio physical commonsense, and cross-modal physical commonsense. Across three proprietary and four open-source models, we find that Seedance 2.0 performs best overall, but all models remain far from robust physical understanding. Performance drops sharply on event-driven and environment-driven transitions, and even strong proprietary systems collapse on Anti-AV-Physics prompts. We further introduce AV-Phys Agent, a ReAct-style evaluator that combines a multimodal language model with deterministic acoustic measurement tools, producing rankings that closely align with human ratings. Our results identify cross-modal physical consistency and transition-driven scene dynamics as key open challenges for joint audio-video generation.

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Referee Report

4 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper introduces AV-Phys Bench, a benchmark for evaluating physical commonsense in joint audio-video generation models. It categorizes scenes into Steady State, Event Transition, and Environment Transition, includes Anti-AV-Physics prompts, and scores generations along five dimensions (visual/audio semantic adherence, visual/audio physical commonsense, cross-modal physical commonsense) using the AV-Phys Agent (a ReAct-style multimodal LLM augmented with deterministic acoustic tools). Experiments on three proprietary and four open-source models show Seedance 2.0 performing best overall, with sharp drops on transition scenes and Anti-AV-Physics prompts, and report that agent rankings align with human ratings. The central claim is that current models lack robust audio-visual physical understanding.

Significance. If the benchmark and agent are shown to be reliable, the work would usefully identify cross-modal consistency and transition dynamics as open challenges for joint AV generation, providing a concrete evaluation framework that could steer future model training and architecture choices in multimodal synthesis.

major comments (4)
  1. [Section 3] Section 3 (Benchmark Construction): The description of prompt sourcing, subcategory selection from real-world scenes, and exact criteria for Anti-AV-Physics prompts lacks sufficient detail on curation process, diversity metrics, or potential biases, which directly affects the validity of the reported performance drops on Event/Environment Transitions.
  2. [Section 4.2] Section 4.2 (Evaluation Dimensions): The five dimensions are presented as jointly measuring physical understanding, yet no quantitative grounding (e.g., comparison of generated clips against physics simulators for trajectory conservation or wave propagation) or ablation is provided to show they are necessary and sufficient; this is load-bearing for the claim that all models 'remain far from robust physical understanding.'
  3. [Section 5] Section 5 (Results and Agent Validation): While agent-human alignment is claimed, no inter-rater agreement statistics, statistical significance tests on model differences, or confidence intervals are reported; the assertion that Seedance 2.0 is best overall and that proprietary models collapse on Anti-AV-Physics prompts therefore rests on unquantified differences.
  4. [Section 4.3] Section 4.3 (AV-Phys Agent): The ReAct-style agent relies on LLM judgments for visual/audio physical commonsense and cross-modal consistency without external physics-based verification (e.g., extracting 3D motion or acoustic spectra and checking against conservation equations), leaving open whether low scores reflect genuine violations or evaluator heuristics.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Section 4] Notation for the five evaluation dimensions is introduced without a clear summary table, making it hard to track which dimension drives the reported failures on transitions.
  2. [Abstract and Section 1] The abstract and introduction use 'robust physical understanding' without a precise operational definition tied to the benchmark, which should be clarified early.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive and detailed feedback on our manuscript. We address each major comment point by point below, providing clarifications and outlining planned revisions to enhance the rigor, transparency, and validity of the benchmark and evaluations.

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  1. Referee: [Section 3] Section 3 (Benchmark Construction): The description of prompt sourcing, subcategory selection from real-world scenes, and exact criteria for Anti-AV-Physics prompts lacks sufficient detail on curation process, diversity metrics, or potential biases, which directly affects the validity of the reported performance drops on Event/Environment Transitions.

    Authors: We agree that expanded details on curation will strengthen the paper's validity. In the revised manuscript, we will augment Section 3 with: (1) explicit sources for real-world scene subcategories (e.g., referenced physics video corpora and textbooks), (2) quantitative diversity metrics including counts of unique physics phenomena, scene complexity distributions, and subcategory balance, and (3) precise criteria for Anti-AV-Physics prompts (e.g., deliberate violation of conservation laws while preserving semantic coherence). We will also add a paragraph on bias mitigation strategies, such as prompt length balancing and expert review for over-representation of object categories. These changes directly support the reported drops on transition scenes. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Section 4.2] Section 4.2 (Evaluation Dimensions): The five dimensions are presented as jointly measuring physical understanding, yet no quantitative grounding (e.g., comparison of generated clips against physics simulators for trajectory conservation or wave propagation) or ablation is provided to show they are necessary and sufficient; this is load-bearing for the claim that all models 'remain far from robust physical understanding.'

    Authors: We acknowledge the value of additional grounding. The dimensions were logically decomposed from physical commonsense literature into visual/audio/cross-modal components to enable fine-grained diagnosis. Full simulator comparisons are impractical for the benchmark's open-ended, diverse scenes. In revision, we will add to Section 4.2: explicit rationale with illustrative examples for each dimension, an ablation study on a representative subset demonstrating their individual contributions to aggregate scores, and an explicit limitations paragraph noting the absence of simulator-based verification. This will better substantiate the central claim while highlighting avenues for future work. revision: partial

  3. Referee: [Section 5] Section 5 (Results and Agent Validation): While agent-human alignment is claimed, no inter-rater agreement statistics, statistical significance tests on model differences, or confidence intervals are reported; the assertion that Seedance 2.0 is best overall and that proprietary models collapse on Anti-AV-Physics prompts therefore rests on unquantified differences.

    Authors: We agree that statistical quantification is essential for robust claims. In the revised Section 5, we will report: inter-rater agreement (e.g., Fleiss' kappa across human evaluators), statistical significance tests (e.g., Wilcoxon signed-rank tests with p-values) for all model pairwise differences, and 95% confidence intervals on the per-dimension and aggregate scores. These will be incorporated into the text, tables, and figures. This will provide quantitative backing for Seedance 2.0's ranking and the observed collapses on Anti-AV-Physics prompts. revision: yes

  4. Referee: [Section 4.3] Section 4.3 (AV-Phys Agent): The ReAct-style agent relies on LLM judgments for visual/audio physical commonsense and cross-modal consistency without external physics-based verification (e.g., extracting 3D motion or acoustic spectra and checking against conservation equations), leaving open whether low scores reflect genuine violations or evaluator heuristics.

    Authors: We appreciate this point on verification. The agent hybridizes multimodal LLM reasoning with deterministic acoustic tools (e.g., spectral analysis for wave propagation checks) to ground audio evaluations. Comprehensive external physics simulation (3D trajectories, conservation equations) is not scalable across the benchmark's varied creative scenes without per-scene custom simulators. In revision, we will expand Section 4.3 to: detail the acoustic tool implementations with examples, describe prompting strategies that explicitly reference physical principles, and include a dedicated limitations discussion on potential LLM heuristics alongside suggestions for simulator integration in future extensions. The human alignment results provide empirical support for the current approach. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity in empirical benchmark evaluation

full rationale

The paper is an empirical benchmark study that introduces AV-Phys Bench and AV-Phys Agent to evaluate joint audio-video generation models on physical commonsense. There are no mathematical derivations, equations, fitted parameters, or first-principles predictions that reduce to self-defined inputs. Central claims rest on observed performance differences across models, scene categories, and prompt types, with the agent explicitly validated by alignment to human ratings. No load-bearing steps rely on self-citation chains, ansatzes, or renaming of known results; the work is self-contained as an experimental evaluation.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 2 invented entities

The central claim rests on the domain assumption that the chosen scene categories and evaluation dimensions capture physical commonsense; no free parameters or invented physical entities are introduced.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Physical commonsense in audio-video pairs can be decomposed into the five listed adherence and consistency dimensions
    Invoked when defining the evaluation protocol in the abstract.
invented entities (2)
  • AV-Phys Bench no independent evidence
    purpose: Benchmark for physical commonsense in joint AV generation
    Newly introduced test suite; no independent evidence outside the paper.
  • AV-Phys Agent no independent evidence
    purpose: ReAct-style automated evaluator combining MLLM with acoustic tools
    Newly introduced tool; no independent evidence outside the paper.

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